True Debian doesn't "provide" VirtualBox but it's trivial to install.  Been 
working great for me since at least 2005.  

Eric C

> On Oct 25, 2021, at 3:19 PM, Edward <e...@sillydog.org> wrote:
> 
> Debian does not provide VirtualBox. They only offer virt-manager and Gnome 
> Boxes.
> 
> The system basically wants to install most (if not all) of the same 
> dependencies for Gnome Boxes, that it did for virt-manager. When I was using 
> Fedora, Jerry told me about Gnome Boxes and I found it very easy to use. But 
> given my experience with virt-manager, I would expect the same issues if I 
> tried Gnome Boxes.
> 
> I went with PCLOS' Community LXQt image because I'm used to that desktop and 
> it's lightweight, wasn't expecting any issues running/installing it in a VM.
> 
> 
> 
>> On 10/25/21 14:55, Eric Chadbourne wrote:
>> As an alternative I use Virtualbox at home.  Works great.  Zero complaints.  
>> I use Vagrant on occasion to control programmatically.
>> 
>> I started with Virtualbox years ago as it supported older CPUs.  I think 
>> somebody on this list turned me on to it.
>> 
>> Hope that helps.
>> 
>> Eric C
>> 
>> Chadbourne.Consulting
>> 
>>>> On Oct 25, 2021, at 2:44 PM, Edward <e...@sillydog.org> wrote:
>>> 
>>> After realizing that I forgot to add the relevant USB hardware to the VM, 
>>> I deleted it, as they could be not added after the fact.
>>> 
>>> Upon attempting to recreate it with the USB hardware added in, all attempts 
>>> were unsuccessful. virt-manager wants the name of the distro during the 
>>> creation of the VM. Since the name of the distro (PCLinuxOS) was not in the 
>>> database, I tried all four of the 'Generic' entries, the latest Mandriva 
>>> (EOL) entry (2011) since the distro was originally based on Mandriva), 
>>> Clear Linux, Arch Linux and finally Ubuntu.
>>> 
>>> None of these would boot the image into a usable live desktop to which the 
>>> OS could then be installed. The image either crashed within the VM, it 
>>> froze on the screen to select the keyboard, or IF the desktop appeared, 
>>> once a second Network Manager applet icon appeared, the video server 
>>> crashes and reboots the desktop, repeatedly. The only way to exit was to 
>>> use virt-manager's Force Off option.
>>> 
>>> So I have reached the conclusion, that, in a home environment, a VM serves 
>>> no useful purpose and is quite frankly, a waste of time, IMHO.
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