Is that a new symptom, or have the UHD Warning:... been there from the
beginning?

I'd like to ask you to copy&paste (not screenshot) the full console
output of running your flowgraph on your machine.

Thanks!

Marcus


On 08/02/2017 08:18 PM, Rui ZOU wrote:
> Most of the times, the transmission is stable, but there are 3 times
> bad things pop up. 'L' is shown for one time after running for some
> time. The following warning is shown twice.
>
> UHD Warning:
>     x300_dac_ctrl: front-end sync failed. unexpected FIFO depth [0x7]
> thread[thread-per-block[5]: <block gr uhd usrp sink (1)>]:
> RuntimeError: x300_dac_ctrl: front-end sync failed. unexpected FIFO
> depth [0x7]
>
> The X3xx is connected to the host using 1G Ethernet cable. The network
> card is Intel Ethernet Converged Network Adapter X520-DA2. The card
> can support 10Gbps, but the sfp+ to rj45 adapter can supports only
> 1Gbps. The output of lspci is shown below.
>
> lspci
> 00:00.0 Host bridge: Intel Corporation Sky Lake Host Bridge/DRAM
> Registers (rev 07)
> 00:01.0 PCI bridge: Intel Corporation Sky Lake PCIe Controller (x16)
> (rev 07)
> 00:14.0 USB controller: Intel Corporation Sunrise Point-H USB 3.0 xHCI
> Controller (rev 31)
> 00:14.2 Signal processing controller: Intel Corporation Sunrise
> Point-H Thermal subsystem (rev 31)
> 00:16.0 Communication controller: Intel Corporation Sunrise Point-H
> CSME HECI #1 (rev 31)
> 00:16.3 Serial controller: Intel Corporation Sunrise Point-H KT
> Redirection (rev 31)
> 00:17.0 RAID bus controller: Intel Corporation SATA Controller [RAID
> mode] (rev 31)
> 00:1d.0 PCI bridge: Intel Corporation Sunrise Point-H PCI Express Root
> Port #9 (rev f1)
> 00:1f.0 ISA bridge: Intel Corporation Sunrise Point-H LPC Controller
> (rev 31)
> 00:1f.2 Memory controller: Intel Corporation Sunrise Point-H PMC (rev 31)
> 00:1f.3 Audio device: Intel Corporation Sunrise Point-H HD Audio (rev 31)
> 00:1f.4 SMBus: Intel Corporation Sunrise Point-H SMBus (rev 31)
> 00:1f.6 Ethernet controller: Intel Corporation Ethernet Connection (2)
> I219-LM (rev 31)
> 01:00.0 Ethernet controller: Intel Corporation 82599ES 10-Gigabit
> SFI/SFP+ Network Connection (rev 01)
> 01:00.1 Ethernet controller: Intel Corporation 82599ES 10-Gigabit
> SFI/SFP+ Network Connection (rev 01)
> 02:00.0 VGA compatible controller: Advanced Micro Devices, Inc.
> [AMD/ATI] Oland XT [Radeon HD 8670 / R7 250/350] (rev 83)
> 02:00.1 Audio device: Advanced Micro Devices, Inc. [AMD/ATI] Cape
> Verde/Pitcairn HDMI Audio [Radeon HD 7700/7800 Series]
>
> Rui
>
>
> On Wed, Aug 2, 2017 at 1:17 PM, Marcus Müller <muel...@kit.edu
> <mailto:muel...@kit.edu>> wrote:
>
>     I'd consider that good news, because that definitely means that
>     your PC is up to the task of supplying samples fast enough :)
>
>     Still, we're getting "L"s. So let's reduce the test case: Same
>     USRP Sink as you use here, but with a Null Source directly feeding
>     it. Is that stable?
>
>     While we're at it: can you describe how the X3xx is connected? Can
>     you maybe even share info on the network card you're using (lspci
>     might help)?
>
>     Best regards,
>
>     Marcus
>
>
>     On 08/02/2017 06:01 PM, Rui ZOU wrote:
>>     Sorry for the confusion, because I thought whenever a hardware is
>>     not used throttle block must be used.
>>
>>     This time, no USRP, no throttle block, the rate is 11.6MS/s. The
>>     python test takes several top CPU consumption PIDs as shown by
>>     the htop screen capture.
>>
>>     ******* MESSAGE DEBUG PRINT ********
>>     (((rate_now . 1.14922e+07) (rate_avg . 1.16197e+07)))
>>     ************************************
>>
>>
>>     On Wed, Aug 2, 2017 at 11:45 AM, Marcus Müller <muel...@kit.edu
>>     <mailto:muel...@kit.edu>> wrote:
>>
>>         I'm really confused at this point. In no point in your
>>         testing should be Throttle involved. So, please, can you do a
>>         test with:
>>
>>         Null Source
>>         Probe Rate -> Message Debug
>>         No UHD USRP Sink
>>         No Throttle
>>
>>         and tell me a) how fast you were and b) how much CPU you used ?
>>         Thanks!
>>
>>         Marcus
>>
>>
>>         On 08/02/2017 05:18 PM, Rui ZOU wrote:
>>>         The screen capture of htop when running the python script,
>>>         test.py, is attached.
>>>
>>>         On Wed, Aug 2, 2017 at 11:10 AM, Rui ZOU
>>>         <zourui.mkithap...@gmail.com
>>>         <mailto:zourui.mkithap...@gmail.com>> wrote:
>>>
>>>             Throttle block is NEVER in use when USRP Sink is used.
>>>
>>>             On Wed, Aug 2, 2017 at 11:08 AM, Rui ZOU
>>>             <zourui.mkithap...@gmail.com
>>>             <mailto:zourui.mkithap...@gmail.com>> wrote:
>>>
>>>                 USRP sink
>>>
>>>                 On Wed, Aug 2, 2017 at 11:08 AM, Rui ZOU
>>>                 <zourui.mkithap...@gmail.com
>>>                 <mailto:zourui.mkithap...@gmail.com>> wrote:
>>>
>>>                     My previous email shows the rate WITHOUT
>>>
>>>                     On Wed, Aug 2, 2017 at 11:05 AM, Marcus Müller
>>>                     <muel...@kit.edu <mailto:muel...@kit.edu>> wrote:
>>>
>>>                         WAIT! Throttle? I didn't see that in either
>>>                         of the flow graphs you sent me first
>>>                         (twoparatx, onefile2tx)
>>>
>>>                         Seriously?! Your GRC will even print a
>>>                         warning that you mustn't use Throttle
>>>                         together with hardware if you have both
>>>                         Throttle and a USRP sink.
>>>
>>>                         Remove the Throttle, and try again.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>                         On 08/02/2017 05:00 PM, Rui ZOU wrote:
>>>>                         Changed to null source, the rate is still
>>>>                         around twice the sample rate (390.625k) for
>>>>                         throttle block.
>>>>
>>>>                         ******* MESSAGE DEBUG PRINT ********
>>>>                         (((rate_now . 781360) (rate_avg . 786529)))
>>>>                         ************************************
>>>>
>>>>                         When the throttle block is bypassed, the
>>>>                         rate jumps up to around 11.3MS/s.
>>>>
>>>>                         ******* MESSAGE DEBUG PRINT ********
>>>>                         (((rate_now . 1.16071e+07) (rate_avg .
>>>>                         1.12848e+07)))
>>>>                         ************************************
>>>>
>>>>                         The rate is similar to using file source,
>>>>                         0.78MS/s with throttle and 11.3MS/s when
>>>>                         throttle bypassed.
>>>>
>>>>                         Rui
>>>>
>>>>                         On Wed, Aug 2, 2017 at 10:37 AM, Marcus
>>>>                         Müller <muel...@kit.edu
>>>>                         <mailto:muel...@kit.edu>> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>                             Ok, there's something fishy here. That
>>>>                             rate (without the USRP Sink) is
>>>>                             ridiculously low. Can you replace the
>>>>                             file_source with a null_source? That
>>>>                             way, we can rule out storage as the
>>>>                             bottleneck.
>>>>
>>>>                             The probe_rate does nothing but just
>>>>                             count how many items fly by, and then
>>>>                             send a message at its output port every
>>>>                             update period. The message_debug just
>>>>                             prints messages.
>>>>
>>>>                             If it's not storage: are you perhaps
>>>>                             running in a powersaver mode? Even so,
>>>>                             the rate would be too low. I really
>>>>                             don't know what's going wrong here. Run
>>>>                             your flow graph, run "top" in a
>>>>                             terminal, check that the python process
>>>>                             and its spawned child threads really
>>>>                             consume most of the CPU. If that's not
>>>>                             the case, you've got something else
>>>>                             eating away on your CPU.
>>>>
>>>>                             Best regards,
>>>>
>>>>                             Marcus
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>                             On 08/02/2017 04:22 PM, Rui ZOU wrote:
>>>>>                             Not sure if the debug setup is the
>>>>>                             expected since it's the first time I
>>>>>                             use the 'Probe Rate' and 'Message
>>>>>                             Debug' blocks whose functions are not
>>>>>                             very clear to me now just after
>>>>>                             reading the contents under the
>>>>>                             document tag. If there are other ways
>>>>>                             to learn about new blocks, please advise.
>>>>>
>>>>>                             The rates I get when the USRP Sink
>>>>>                             disabled is around 0.78MS/s I guess
>>>>>                             from the debug output, shown below.
>>>>>
>>>>>                             ******* MESSAGE DEBUG PRINT ********
>>>>>                             (((rate_now . 782916) (rate_avg .
>>>>>                             784937)))
>>>>>                             ************************************
>>>>>
>>>>>                             After enabling the USRP Sink, I got
>>>>>                             lots of 'L's and 2.4MS/s, shown below.
>>>>>
>>>>>                             
>>>>> LLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLL*******
>>>>>                             MESSAGE DEBUG PRINT ********
>>>>>                             (((rate_now . 2.36319e+06) (rate_avg .
>>>>>                             2.36319e+06)))
>>>>>                             ************************************
>>>>>
>>>>>                             GRC and python files are attached.
>>>>>
>>>>>                             Rui
>>>>>
>>>>>                             On Wed, Aug 2, 2017 at 3:57 AM, Marcus
>>>>>                             Müller <muel...@kit.edu
>>>>>                             <mailto:muel...@kit.edu>> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>                                 Huh, I really don't know what's
>>>>>                                 happening there :/ I sadly don't
>>>>>                                 have the USRP to test this live
>>>>>                                 with me right now, but there's
>>>>>                                 absolutely no timed commands involved¹
>>>>>
>>>>>                                 So, trying to weed out bugs:
>>>>>
>>>>>                                 * I've replaced the USRP sink with
>>>>>                                 a "Probe Rate" block, connected to
>>>>>                                 a "Message Debug"'s print port. I
>>>>>                                 saw samples fly by with more than
>>>>>                                 7 MS/s, so there really shouldn't
>>>>>                                 be a bottleneck here – can you try
>>>>>                                 to do the same and see whether
>>>>>                                 your system can get similar rates?
>>>>>                                 7MS/s is still far too little for
>>>>>                                 my taste, but that is
>>>>>                                 FM-Modulation-limited²
>>>>>                                 * Can you delete your subdev spec?
>>>>>                                 in a 2-channel case, that should
>>>>>                                 be the implicit one, anyways.
>>>>>
>>>>>                                 Best regards,
>>>>>
>>>>>                                 Marcus
>>>>>
>>>>>                                 ¹ "timed commands" are a USRP
>>>>>                                 feature that allows certain things
>>>>>                                 to happen at well-defined times.
>>>>>                                 You get an L when a timed command
>>>>>                                 reaches the USRP after the
>>>>>                                 specified time has already passed.
>>>>>                                 In your flow graph, all that could
>>>>>                                 happen is that a sample packet
>>>>>                                 reaches the USRP after it should –
>>>>>                                 but that's unlikely, you'd get a
>>>>>                                 "U" instead.
>>>>>
>>>>>                                 ² at least on my machine, most of
>>>>>                                 the time is spent in the FM
>>>>>                                 modulator. Which is kind of
>>>>>                                 annoying, because looking into
>>>>>                                 that, what costs most time is the
>>>>>                                 "keeping the phase within 0;2pi"
>>>>>                                 floating point modulo operation. I
>>>>>                                 might get the urge to fix that.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>                                 On 08/01/2017 08:31 PM, Rui ZOU wrote:
>>>>>>                                 Hi Marcus,
>>>>>>
>>>>>>                                 I have fixed the two parallel
>>>>>>                                 SISO by removing packeting
>>>>>>                                 encoding, using QT GUI instead of
>>>>>>                                 WX. But the 'L' indicator still
>>>>>>                                 comes on, even sooner than
>>>>>>                                 previous version. The GRC and
>>>>>>                                 generated python files are attached.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>                                 Rui
>>>>>>
>>>>>>                                 On Tue, Aug 1, 2017 at 12:04 PM,
>>>>>>                                 Marcus Müller <muel...@kit.edu
>>>>>>                                 <mailto:muel...@kit.edu>> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>                                     Ah, cool, but then I wouldn't
>>>>>>                                     start by packetizing data.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>                                     Simply send your file
>>>>>>                                     GMSK-Modulated; drop the
>>>>>>                                     packet encoding; think about
>>>>>>                                     it: the MIMO coding (usually)
>>>>>>                                     happens *after* the data has
>>>>>>                                     been formed to logical data
>>>>>>                                     units.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>                                     A few notes on your
>>>>>>                                     flowgraphs: Don't use the WX
>>>>>>                                     GUI elements in new
>>>>>>                                     flowgraphs. We have
>>>>>>                                     deprecated them, since no-one
>>>>>>                                     can maintain them, and the Qt
>>>>>>                                     GUI sinks have shown to be
>>>>>>                                     both more stable and
>>>>>>                                     efficient. As far as I can
>>>>>>                                     foresee your application's
>>>>>>                                     needs, Qt has replacements
>>>>>>                                     for all the WX visualizations
>>>>>>                                     you'd need.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>                                     For the receiver, I'd guess
>>>>>>                                     you'd first simply start by
>>>>>>                                     just recording from to
>>>>>>                                     channels, and then
>>>>>>                                     experimenting with things
>>>>>>                                     like cross-correlation, and
>>>>>>                                     estimating the channel matrix
>>>>>>                                     based on your known transmit
>>>>>>                                     signal. I wouldn't be
>>>>>>                                     surprised if the channel is
>>>>>>                                     rather boring in your setup –
>>>>>>                                     I blindly assume you're doing
>>>>>>                                     this indoors, and that limits
>>>>>>                                     the path difference and the
>>>>>>                                     amount of change (and hence,
>>>>>>                                     the delay spread and the
>>>>>>                                     doppler spread) your signals
>>>>>>                                     are subject to, especially
>>>>>>                                     since your bandwidth is so
>>>>>>                                     low. Of course, having a flat
>>>>>>                                     channel is nice :) but it
>>>>>>                                     also means that it might be
>>>>>>                                     quite hard to get any actual
>>>>>>                                     MIMO gain, because the two RX
>>>>>>                                     antennas might be very
>>>>>>                                     correlated. If in doubt,
>>>>>>                                     increase bandwidth. Be
>>>>>>                                     agressive with roll-off /
>>>>>>                                     Bandwidth factors of your GMSK.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>                                     Cheers,
>>>>>>                                     Marcus
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>                                     On 08/01/2017 05:51 PM, Rui
>>>>>>                                     ZOU wrote:
>>>>>>>                                     Hi Marcus,
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>                                     My goal is to first build a
>>>>>>>                                     2-by-2 space multiplexing
>>>>>>>                                     MIMO using two X310s and GNU
>>>>>>>                                     Radio. As I'm new to all
>>>>>>>                                     this stuff, I'm starting
>>>>>>>                                     from building 2 parallel
>>>>>>>                                     SISOs. If there are some
>>>>>>>                                     good kick-start materials or
>>>>>>>                                     any resources, they will be
>>>>>>>                                     very valuable. Thanks.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>                                     Rui
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>                                     On Tue, Aug 1, 2017 at 11:37
>>>>>>>                                     AM, Marcus Müller
>>>>>>>                                     <muel...@kit.edu
>>>>>>>                                     <mailto:muel...@kit.edu>> wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>                                         Hi Rui,
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>                                         sorry, I might simply
>>>>>>>                                         have missed those, and
>>>>>>>                                         didn't find your first
>>>>>>>                                         email when I saw your
>>>>>>>                                         recent one! I apologize.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>                                         So, hm, interestingly,
>>>>>>>                                         we have a severe bug in
>>>>>>>                                         the packet_encoder block
>>>>>>>                                         (its design is pretty
>>>>>>>                                         bad, and that triggers
>>>>>>>                                         an unexpected behaviour
>>>>>>>                                         underneath). That might
>>>>>>>                                         mean the packet_encoder
>>>>>>>                                         is just consuming items
>>>>>>>                                         as fast as it can,
>>>>>>>                                         without actually
>>>>>>>                                         producing packets. In
>>>>>>>                                         other words,
>>>>>>>                                         packet_encoder is
>>>>>>>                                         broken; you can't use it
>>>>>>>                                         right now.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>                                         The more appropriate way
>>>>>>>                                         of dealing with data
>>>>>>>                                         might be in the example
>>>>>>>                                         flowgraphs that you'd
>>>>>>>                                         find under
>>>>>>>                                         
>>>>>>> /usr/[local/]share/doc/gnuradio/examples/digital/packet_loopback_hier.grc
>>>>>>>                                         ; it's a lot more
>>>>>>>                                         complicated, though, and
>>>>>>>                                         you'd have to write a
>>>>>>>                                         message / PDU source
>>>>>>>                                         that gives you the data
>>>>>>>                                         you want to transmit,
>>>>>>>                                         rather than the Random
>>>>>>>                                         PDU block!
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>                                         I don't really know if
>>>>>>>                                         that is the way to go.
>>>>>>>                                         What is it, that you
>>>>>>>                                         want to build? Maybe the
>>>>>>>                                         mailing list can advise?
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>                                         Best regards,
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>                                         Marcus
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>                                         On 08/01/2017 05:26 PM,
>>>>>>>                                         Rui ZOU wrote:
>>>>>>>>                                         Here are the two
>>>>>>>>                                         flowgraphs I have used.
>>>>>>>>                                         I have tried to attach
>>>>>>>>                                         the two files in my
>>>>>>>>                                         first email. Probably
>>>>>>>>                                         failed in doing that.
>>>>>>>>                                         If still not seen,
>>>>>>>>                                         please let me know so I
>>>>>>>>                                         will try again. Thanks
>>>>>>>>                                         for your help.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>                                         Running the first flow
>>>>>>>>                                         graph will cause GRC
>>>>>>>>                                         stop responding
>>>>>>>>                                         instantly, while the
>>>>>>>>                                         second one can run for
>>>>>>>>                                         a little while and
>>>>>>>>                                         produce lots of 'L'
>>>>>>>>                                         before going not
>>>>>>>>                                         responsive.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>                                         Rui
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>                                         On Tue, Aug 1, 2017 at
>>>>>>>>                                         11:09 AM, Marcus Müller
>>>>>>>>                                         <muel...@kit.edu
>>>>>>>>                                         <mailto:muel...@kit.edu>>
>>>>>>>>                                         wrote:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>                                             Hi Rui,
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>                                             don't know, to me,
>>>>>>>>                                             it looks like
>>>>>>>>                                             replying didn't
>>>>>>>>                                             work out great,
>>>>>>>>                                             since my mail
>>>>>>>>                                             client showed your
>>>>>>>>                                             mail in a new
>>>>>>>>                                             thread. Really,
>>>>>>>>                                             replying to a
>>>>>>>>                                             mailing list mail
>>>>>>>>                                             should be nothing
>>>>>>>>                                             more than hitting
>>>>>>>>                                             the "reply" or
>>>>>>>>                                             "reply all" button.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>                                             Anyway, even the
>>>>>>>>                                             slowest
>>>>>>>>                                             PC/laptop/Raspberry
>>>>>>>>                                             Pi/… I could think
>>>>>>>>                                             of would be able to
>>>>>>>>                                             deal with these
>>>>>>>>                                             rates, so there's
>>>>>>>>                                             very, very likely
>>>>>>>>                                             something wrong
>>>>>>>>                                             with the GNU Radio
>>>>>>>>                                             flowgraph you're
>>>>>>>>                                             using. Maybe you'd
>>>>>>>>                                             want to share that!
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>                                             Best regards,
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>                                             Marcus
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>                                             On 08/01/2017 04:59
>>>>>>>>                                             PM, Rui ZOU wrote:
>>>>>>>>>                                             Hi Marcus,
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>                                             Sorry for leaving
>>>>>>>>>                                             the title empty,
>>>>>>>>>                                             that's the first
>>>>>>>>>                                             time to post to a
>>>>>>>>>                                             mailing list. This
>>>>>>>>>                                             is also the first
>>>>>>>>>                                             time to reply, no
>>>>>>>>>                                             sure if I replied
>>>>>>>>>                                             correctly.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>                                             I use 390.625k as
>>>>>>>>>                                             the sampling rate
>>>>>>>>>                                             because this is
>>>>>>>>>                                             the lowest I can
>>>>>>>>>                                             get using the
>>>>>>>>>                                             Ettus X310 without
>>>>>>>>>                                             giving me a
>>>>>>>>>                                             warning saying
>>>>>>>>>                                             that the sampling
>>>>>>>>>                                             rate cannot be
>>>>>>>>>                                             provided by the
>>>>>>>>>                                             hardware. The
>>>>>>>>>                                             application is
>>>>>>>>>                                             just transmitting
>>>>>>>>>                                             a file using GMSK
>>>>>>>>>                                             modulation on the
>>>>>>>>>                                             two daughter
>>>>>>>>>                                             boards of X310.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>                                             Rui
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>                                             
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