With antennae, or with a cable, and if with a cable, how much
attenuation in the cable system? 

On 2015-10-26 15:54, Washbourne, Logan wrote: 

> Tx and Rx are on their own USRP1s, the daughter board is the RFX2400. They 
> are roughl 3ft apart from each other on a desk. The Rx side is using the RX2 
> port. 
> 
> I will definitely try upping the gain when I get back into the office 
> tomorrow. I will check the SMA ports, I didn't configure these myself so I 
> should probably double check them anyways. 
> 
> Logan Washbourne Electrical Engineering Graduate Student (Electromagnetics) 
> 
> On Mon, Oct 26, 2015 at 2:46 PM, Marcus Müller <marcus.muel...@ettus.com> 
> wrote:
> 
> Hi!
> 
> * looking at your constellation, relief comes setting in: It looks pretty 
> circular to me; notice how the axes are scaled differently. So no 
> catastrophic IQ imbalance.
> * the fact that it's circular and not a line is probably the result of the 
> constellation sink not being able to achieve timing synchronization, i.e. it 
> doesn't "know" when a symbol starts
> * You're right, RX SNR is terrible. However, RX power is very little indeed
> * Rule of thumb: if(not clipping && in doubt) increase gain;
> * What exactly is your "RF channel": antennas, direct cable with attenuator?
> * The mistake I do every few months: Did you connect the antenna/cable to the 
> wrong SMA port?
> 
> Best regards,
> Marcus 
> 
> On 26.10.2015 20:33, Washbourne, Logan wrote: 
> I looked at the spectrums of both sides and the RX side looks to be inundated 
> with a lot of noise. I'm not sure if its my environment or my USRPs, but I 
> really expected to see some resemblance of a signal. I am posting links to 
> screencaps of the TX and RX sides.
> 
> http://imgur.com/GBTHw8T- [2] TX
> http://imgur.com/DBy8gqs [3] - RX
> 
> Logan Washbourne Electrical Engineering Graduate Student (Electromagnetics) 
> 
> On Mon, Oct 26, 2015 at 1:31 PM, Marcus Müller <marcus.muel...@ettus.com> 
> wrote:
> 
> Can you compare the TX spectrum with the RX spectrum? Maybe it'd worthwhile 
> to first look at at e.g. 500kHz of RX spectrum to see whether, due to 
> frequency offset, some of the wanted signal simply gets cut off; admittedly, 
> with 2S/sym that's not too likely...
> 
> Best regards,
> Marcus 
> 
> On 26.10.2015 19:16, Washbourne, Logan wrote: 
> I am using 250k! 
> 
> Logan Washbourne Electrical Engineering Graduate Student (Electromagnetics) 
> 
> On Mon, Oct 26, 2015 at 1:05 PM, Marcus Müller <marcus.muel...@ettus.com> 
> wrote:
> 
> Hello!
> what's the sampling rate you're using?
> 
> Best regards,
> Marcus 
> 
> On 26.10.2015 18:38, Washbourne, Logan wrote: 
> 
> Hello all,
> 
> I'm trying to take a step back from my previous postings and try a simple 
> approach to try and understand working with over the air communications with 
> the USRPs. Let me know if it would be better to post this in the USRPs-Users 
> list.
> 
> I'm trying to have a simple TX and simple RX side so I can eliminate and 
> unnecessary complications.
> 
> The TX side has the following flowgraph: Vector Source(preamble+data)->DPSK 
> Mod(DBPSK,2samples/symbol)-> Multiply Const(.707) -> UHD:USRP SINK(2.448GHz 
> center freq, 10dB default gain)
> 
> RX Side: UHD:USRP Source(2.448GHz center freq, 10dB gain default) -> DPSK 
> DEMOD(DBPSK, 2 samples/ symbol, rest default values) - > file sink
> 
> I'm checking the progress of the communication by looking at a constellation 
> plot that is connected directly to the USRP SOURCE block on the receiver 
> side. I'm getting a very elliptical shape, more spread out in the horizontal 
> direction but not by much. I'm also looking at the bits from the receiver 
> side in matlab and my preamble is not showing up.
> 
> These were the same problems I had when trying to use a correlated system for 
> OTA communications. I feel like I'm missing something really simple.
> 
> Does anyone know of a simple TX, RX grc setup that I can use to test my USRPs?
> 
> Again, I really appreciate the help you guys give.
> 
> Logan Washbourne Electrical Engineering Graduate Student (Electromagnetics) 
> 
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