> Hi Marc,
>
> demod:
> both can be implemented in GNU Radio. Correlation of course is more
> computationally intensive; I haven't thought about 4-FSK so far, but I
> guess for quadrature demodulation, you'd need multiple branches to
> distinguish the possible symbols. There are other approaches (e.g. polar
> discrimination by calculating the phase difference between two samples
> etc. There's an exciting new polyphase filterbank channelizer
> implementation, also, which you could abuse to do FSK, too).
>

Hi Marcus!

Thanks for your detailed reply. To what I have studied yet polar
discriminator will be affected  more by the amplitude variations during
transmission. Currently I do not know how to cater these variations, I am
reading literature on it.
Currently, I am trying to implement  correlation receiver using FIR
filters.  I am looking into polyphase filterbank channelizer to implement
correlation,  but currently unable to do so because I currently do not know
how to assign taps for channelizer.


> Generally, if you are synchronized, you might even just estimate the
> frequency of a symbol. In the easiest case, this might break down to an
> abs(FFT_4) (which, by the way, is mathematically *very* similar to
> correlating with known frequencies).
>
> But since you asked about low-SNR situations: Employ a lot of
> oversampling, if possible. Processing gain when correlating/averaging
> should be proportional to oversampling factor. Oversampling, giving you
> more bandwidth, would also be beneficial if you used a filterbank
> approach, since it reduces the need for frequency synchronization in a
> practical system, if your FSK shift is sufficiently larger than your
> frequency offset.
>
>
Oversampling at baseband ? I am currently sampling at 1Msps (usrp sink
sampling rate) for a tone spacing of 125KHz. You mean after the USRP sink
block I should upsample again and then do the correlation?  Or you mean
something else ? Please forgive me for asking too many question, I am still
learning.


> All in all, the question which demodulator architecture to use is an
> academic/research one and not related to the implementation in GNU Radio
> modulation. This is a highly interesting field and I can but encourage
> you to read a lot of books [1] and papers on this.
>
>
Thanks for the link, nice stuff.


> modulation:
>
> Assuming you don't want phase jumps between symbols, why not just use
> the VCO block to generate frequencies out of your input values?
>
>
Wow! modulation is easy using VCO. A question, why would someone want phase
jump between symbols?


Marc



> Greetings,
> Marcus
>
> [1] a nice list:
> http://gnuradio.org/redmine/projects/gnuradio/wiki/SuggestedReading
>
> On 18.06.2014 13:17, Marc Miller wrote:
> > Hi, I am new to gnuradio, I want to develop 4FSK system. transmitter and
> > receiver. Is there any existing 4FSK transceiver system in gnuradio ?
> Also,
> > which one of the following two is the best/optimum 4FSK demodulator for
> low
> > SNR?
> >
> > a. Quadrature demodulation
> > b. Correlator demdulation (autocorrelate tones-->energy detect->pick
> > largest)
> >
> > Which one of the above can be implemented in gnuradio ?
> >
> >
> > Marc
> >
>
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