Hi Tom & Nick,

Thanks for your replies. The function generator is producing a sine wave
with 1 V (10 MHz). This is going to the ref clocks. The E light is ON and I
have changed the clock source option to be external in gnuradio-companion
environment. I tried with square wave, too. But the output did not change.
The transmission is taking place at 450 MHz carrier frequency. I am using
USRP2's with RFX400 & FLEX400 daughterboard.

In fact, I see a 6 kHz frequency offset even without the reference clock.
Does it suggest that the external reference clock is somehow not going
through? I don't know if I should change more options in gnuradio-companion
toolbox to make the reference clock work.

Thanks,

Nazmul



On Thu, Jun 7, 2012 at 11:31 PM, Nick Foster <n...@ettus.com> wrote:

> On Thu, Jun 7, 2012 at 7:11 PM, Tom Rondeau <t...@trondeau.com> wrote:
>
>> On Thu, Jun 7, 2012 at 1:30 PM, Nazmul Islam <mnis...@winlab.rutgers.edu>
>> wrote:
>> > I got a partial answer to my previously posted question :). When I pass
>> the
>> > complex baseband I & Q with a costas loop block, the  output indeed
>> looks
>> > like a square wave.
>> >
>> > Does it mean that external reference clock does not correct the
>> > phase/carrier offset error? Does it only solve the timing error issue?
>> >
>> > Thanks,
>> >
>> > Nazmul
>>
>> Glad that you are able to get far enough to recover it. As for the
>> remaining 6 kHz offset, what's the RF frequency? What does 6 kHz
>> translate into for a parts per million? While I would expect them to
>> be the same with both locked to the same external clock, we are
>> talking about reality here, so things aren't always that cooperative.
>> I can't think what would cause this kind of an offset, though, as it
>> seems rather large.
>>
>> Maybe someone with more hands-on hardware experience with precision
>> equipment can jump in here.
>>
>> Tom
>>
>
> 6kHz is way too high. They should be cycle-locked. What is the amplitude
> of the clock signal you're feeding into the USRP2?
>
> --n
>
>
>>
>>
>> > On Thu, Jun 7, 2012 at 12:00 PM, Nazmul Islam <
>> mnis...@winlab.rutgers.edu>
>> > wrote:
>> >>
>> >> Hi Tom,
>> >>
>> >> First of all, thanks a lot for your detailed reply. I appreciate it. I
>> did
>> >> as you told in the last email, i.e., I transmitted a square wave
>> (switching
>> >> between 0.5 to -0.5). The sqaure wave's period was 1 ms and the
>> sampling
>> >> rate was 1 MHz. I have attached the real part of the outputs with the
>> >> email.
>> >>
>> >> The output shows a phase shift after every 500 samples, i.e., half
>> period
>> >> of the square wave with 1 MHz sampling rate. The sinusoidal nature of
>> the
>> >> output probably comes from frequency offset of the two USRP's. I
>> expected
>> >> this for an internal clock source.
>> >>
>> >> However, I see a 6 kHz frequency offset (3 sine period per 0.5 ms) even
>> >> with the presence of an external clock. The external clock is driving
>> both
>> >> USRP's. The E LED is on. I am using a sine wave with 10 MHz frequency
>> & 7
>> >> dBm amplitude as the external clock. I also put the clock source
>> options in
>> >> grc as external. Do I need to make any other changes in the GRC blocks
>> to
>> >> inform USRP about the external source?
>> >>
>> >> Any suggestions will be appreciated. Thanks for all of your help.
>> >>
>> >> Nazmul
>> >>
>> >> On Fri, May 25, 2012 at 1:40 PM, Tom Rondeau <t...@trondeau.com> wrote:
>> >>>
>> >>> On Thu, May 24, 2012 at 7:07 PM, Nazmul Islam
>> >>> <mnis...@winlab.rutgers.edu> wrote:
>> >>> > Hello,
>> >>> >
>> >>> > I want to transmit a continuous stream of 1's or 0's (with bpsk
>> >>> > modulation)
>> >>> > and record the received I-Q stream. I am trying to use the
>> >>> > 'digital_bert_tx.py' code for transmission and the uhd_rx_cfile code
>> >>> > (gr-uhd/apps) for reception. Thereafter, I use the
>> read_complex_binary
>> >>> > code
>> >>> > to read the data in Matlab.
>> >>> >
>> >>> > Surprisingly, I am receiving similar type of I-Q stream (around 0.3
>> + j
>> >>> > 0.3)
>> >>> > for both 1 and 0 transmission. I am using the following commands:
>> >>> >
>> >>> > self._bits = gr.vector_source_b([1,], True)                       (I
>> >>> > either
>> >>> > transmit infinite 1 or infinit 0's. When I transmit infinite 0's, I
>> >>> > replace
>> >>> > '1' by '0' in the command)
>> >>> >
>> >>> > ./digital_bert_naz_tx.py -r 5M -m bpsk -f 450M --gain 0.1
>> >>> > --non-differential    (I am using non-differential since I want to
>> see
>> >>> > the
>> >>> > different amplitude levels for '1's or 0's)
>> >>> >
>> >>> > ./uhd_rx_cfile -N 1000 -f 450M --samp-rate 5M file.dat   (Since I am
>> >>> > using
>> >>> > bpsk, sample-rate should be equal to bit rate, I assume)
>> >>> >
>> >>> > Ideally, the I-Q stream of bpsk should show 180 degree phase shift
>> for
>> >>> > 1 and
>> >>> > 0 transmission. I am getting the same value for both transmission.
>> Can
>> >>> > anyone suggest where I am making mistakes?
>> >>> >
>> >>> >
>> >>> > Thanks,
>> >>> >
>> >>> > Nazmul
>> >>>
>> >>>
>> >>> Nazmul,
>> >>> Hard to say from this info. A few things to note on, though. First,
>> >>> 1000 samples isn't that much. There are startup transients in
>> >>> hardware, so you might just be seeing effects of those. I'd capture
>> >>> ten thousand or a million and just read out the last 1000.
>> >>>
>> >>> Also, the transmitter and receiver are running on two different
>> >>> clocks, so their frequency and phases aren't going to match, unless
>> >>> you've locked them to the same source. It'd be hard to say what you'll
>> >>> see, exactly, due to this. That's why we use recovery loops for all of
>> >>> these things.
>> >>>
>> >>> What I would recommend is to create a transmitter that transmits a
>> >>> long string of 1's followed by a long string of 0's (100 or 200 each).
>> >>> When you plot the last 1000 samples, you should see something that
>> >>> moves between two amplitudes. I wouldn't trust what you see from one
>> >>> run to another, so just do it at the same time.
>> >>>
>> >>> Tom
>> >>
>> >>
>> >>
>> >>
>> >> --
>> >> Muhammad Nazmul Islam
>> >>
>> >> Graduate Student
>> >> Electrical & Computer Engineering
>> >> Wireless Information & Networking Laboratory
>> >> Rutgers, USA.
>> >>
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> > --
>> > Muhammad Nazmul Islam
>> >
>> > Graduate Student
>> > Electrical & Computer Engineering
>> > Wireless Information & Networking Laboratory
>> > Rutgers, USA.
>> >
>>
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Rutgers, USA.
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