I see, thanks, will definitely keep it in mind as we work on this. Den 18. aug. 2011 kl. 14:52 skrev Jason Pickering:
> The main benefit of an installer for us was > > 1) A pre-packaged database (straight DXF transmission will not carry > everything you need for a complete reserialization from a master database) > 2) Proper shortcut links to make DHIS2 "look" like a piece of software users > are used to dealing with > 3) Installation of Java when required (important!) > 4) As Bob hints at, it may be required in the "draconian" situation to ship > DHIS2 with fewer features, although I am sure these could be relatively > easily circumvented by savvy users! We have tinkered with an extremely > stripped down version of DHIS2 in Nigeria which only does data entry, data > export, and nothing else built through a custom pom specifically for another > use case, but the issue is well worth considering. > > Several versions of the installer are present in the DHIS2 /installers > directory of the main source tree. You can probably trawl through the > archives of the list as well for more info/debates on the utility of a native > installer. Let me know if you need some help to get things running if you are > interested in pursuing the installer route. > > Best regards, > Jason > > > On Thu, Aug 18, 2011 at 4:41 PM, Olav Poppe <olav.po...@gmail.com> wrote: > What would be the main benefits of this versus just using the H2 database in > DHIS live, except the documentation? > > Den 18. aug. 2011 kl. 14:12 skrev Jason Pickering: > >> We have also created an H2 installer, which is considerably easier than the >> Postgres installer. This would allow you to install this on a users machine, >> with the documentation and a pre-populated H2 database, which may be >> something to consider. Let me know if this would fit your deployment plans, >> and we can discuss more details. >> >> Regards, >> Jason >> >> >> On Thu, Aug 18, 2011 at 4:10 PM, Olav Poppe <olav.po...@gmail.com> wrote: >> Thanks, I will at least try to see how the default H2 performs. >> >> Olav >> >> Den 18. aug. 2011 kl. 13:50 skrev Knut Staring: >> >>> I agree with Bob that it is worth trying going with H2, as it does simplify >>> things considerably. It also provides a possibility for db backup (and >>> transmission) through the copying (and sending) of the whole db file >>> (though a monthly zipped incremental DXF export should be smaller). >>> >>> Knut >>> >>> On Thu, Aug 18, 2011 at 3:40 PM, Olav Poppe <olav.po...@gmail.com> wrote: >>> Thanks >>> It seems the barrier for going offline should be quite high... Will have to >>> look more into exactly how bad the connections are in the worse areas, and >>> also into the offline data entry in 2.4. >>> >>> As for those districts that are in fact offline, is the live package with >>> H2 sufficient? Keeping postgres out of the picture would likely reduce the >>> amount of support required quite a lot. >>> >>> Olav >>> >>> >>> Den 18. aug. 2011 kl. 13:32 skrev Jason Pickering: >>> >>>> I agree with both Bob and Ola. >>>> >>>> We have tried not quite yet succeeded in getting DHIS2 installed with >>>> Tomcat/Postgres on Windows with a one-click installer, this my caveat >>>> about a "supervised" install. There are a lot of things which can happen >>>> on users machines and maintenance becomes a huge issue. DHIS is still >>>> under intense development, and a lot of things change quickly. Upgrading a >>>> single server is a piece of cake. Upgrading dozens or hundreds of off-line >>>> machines is a true nightmare and a serious risk and resource drain to any >>>> deployment. >>>> >>>> I agree with Ola. Totally exclude an on-line server as an option first. If >>>> you have already done that, all I can say is, be prepared for a LOT of >>>> tech support. >>>> >>>> Regards, >>>> Jason >>>> >>>> >>>> On Thu, Aug 18, 2011 at 3:15 PM, Ola Hodne Titlestad <ol...@ifi.uio.no> >>>> wrote: >>>> Olav, >>>> >>>> How offline are these districts? Can they not get connected through mobile >>>> usb modems/dongles? There is so much to gain from online deployment that I >>>> would check out every alternative of connectivity before deciding to go >>>> completely offline. The mobile Internet solution is working very well in >>>> Kenya. With the offline data entry capabilities in the upcoming 2.4, the >>>> districts do not have to be online during the data entry process, which is >>>> a major advantage in areas with poor/unstable connectivity. >>>> >>>> Further recommendations on deployment can be found in the implementation >>>> guide here: >>>> http://dhis2.org/doc/snapshot/en/implementer/html/ch04.html >>>> >>>> And a presentation on the same topic in the zip file with implementation >>>> guide slides here: >>>> http://dhis2.org/download/presentations/presentations.zip >>>> >>>> Ola >>>> ------- >>>> >>>> >>>> ---------------------------------- >>>> Ola Hodne Titlestad (Mr) >>>> HISP >>>> Department of Informatics >>>> University of Oslo >>>> >>>> Mobile: +47 48069736 >>>> Home address: Vetlandsvn. 95B, 0685 Oslo, Norway. Googlemaps link >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> On 18 August 2011 15:02, Jason Pickering <jason.p.picker...@gmail.com> >>>> wrote: >>>> One strong reason not to use it is the relative lack of testing. In >>>> theory, it should work, but just as with MySQL, much more testing has >>>> occurred with Postgres than with the other database systems. >>>> >>>> We have some beta-level Windows installers, which might be of interest to >>>> you, which work pretty well under supervised circumstances. It might be >>>> something to consider if you want a relatively automated install of the >>>> DHISLive/Postgresql stack, with automated restore of the database. >>>> >>>> Regards, >>>> Jason >>>> >>>> >>>> On Thu, Aug 18, 2011 at 2:48 PM, Olav Poppe <olav.po...@gmail.com> wrote: >>>> Hello, >>>> we're looking at what do to with offline installations for the >>>> implementation here in Ghana. Are there any reasons not to use DHIS Live? >>>> Can H2 be used (importing the metadata into an empty database), or should >>>> postgres be set up as well? >>>> >>>> There are 170 districts here, and about half of them might have to be >>>> offline installs so an easy-to-use solutions would be good. >>>> >>>> Thanks, >>>> Olav >>>> >>>> _______________________________________________ >>>> Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~dhis2-devs >>>> Post to : dhis2-devs@lists.launchpad.net >>>> Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~dhis2-devs >>>> More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> _______________________________________________ >>>> Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~dhis2-devs >>>> Post to : dhis2-devs@lists.launchpad.net >>>> Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~dhis2-devs >>>> More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp >>>> >>>> >>>> >>> >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~dhis2-devs >>> Post to : dhis2-devs@lists.launchpad.net >>> Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~dhis2-devs >>> More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> -- >>> Cheers, >>> Knut Staring >> >> > >
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