On 8. 4. 2015 at 14:44:25, Michal Schmidt wrote:
> On 04/08/2015 08:41 AM, Jan Zelený wrote:
> > On 7. 4. 2015 at 17:53:42, Ralf Corsepius wrote:
> >> On 04/07/2015 05:07 PM, Kevin Fenzi wrote:
> >>> dnf's default behavior is like yum with --skip-broken already.
> >> 
> >> WHAT?
> >> 
> >> --skip-broken is a band-aid to work around packaging mistakes and bugs
> >> and NOT be the default.
> >> 
> >> IMO, this kind of behavior is not helpful and therefore should be
> >> reverted.
> > 
> > This behavior is actually helpful, as it doesn't bother users with a bunch
> > of broken deps messages they usually don't fully understand (check out
> > how many of these bugs were filed against yum over the years).
> > 
> > Putting the opinion of myself and the dnf team aside, I'd like to point
> > out
> > that the information you want is still available - dnf check-update will
> > show you all the updates, even those that have broken deps. Running this
> > command right after dnf upgrade will list you those that could not be
> > installed.
> Would it please be possible for "dnf update" to print this information
> automatically?
> E.g. apt-get can say "The following packages have been kept back: ..."
> 
> dnf could report it like in this mockup:
> ...
> Dependencies resolved.
> 
========================================================================
>  Package            Arch     Version            Repository         Size
> 
========================================================================
> Upgrading:
>  emacs              x86_64   1:24.4-6.fc21      updates-testing   3.0 M
>  emacs-common       x86_64   1:24.4-6.fc21      updates-testing    37 M
>  emacs-filesystem   noarch   1:24.4-6.fc21      updates-testing    64 k
> Skipping for dependency reasons:
>  firefox            x86_64   37.0.1-1.fc21      updates-testing    69 M
> 
> Transaction Summary
> 
========================================================================
> Upgrade  3 Packages
> Skip     1 Package
> 
> Total download size: ...
> Is this ok [y/N]:
> 
> Thanks,
> Michal

Please open an RFE, the dnf devel team is tracking everything in bugzilla, 
including priorities. Don't forget to describe the use case ...

Thanks
Jan
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