----- Original Message ----- > From: "Hedayat Vatankhah" <hedayat....@gmail.com> > To: "Development discussions related to Fedora" > <devel@lists.fedoraproject.org> > Sent: Saturday, January 3, 2015 9:42:01 PM > Subject: Yet another frustration with Fedora package management
> Hi! > Summary: Try to prevent a package from being updated/installed from > repositories regardless of the package management tool you use. As it seems, > then only way you can do this is to exclude it from the repositories > themselves inside their configuration file in /etc/yum.repos.d/, because > these are the only common settings between all three (yum/dnf/PackageKit). > TBH, I'm not sure about PackageKit, but I feel that it don't read > /etc/dnf/dnf.conf as it doesn't use DNF but its backends. This is fine if > the package is in a single known repository, but what if it is in 3 > repositories that you might not be aware of all of them? > More details: > As you might already know, nvidia drivers in RPMFusion F21 repositories > doesn't work for all nvidia cards. In one system, I finally installed > akmod-nvidia from RPMFusion F20 repositories which worked fine. Soon after I > realized that I should exclude akmod-nvidia and dependencies from F21 > repositories. I added "exclude=*nvidia*" to /etc/yum.conf as I was lazy to > check which repository these packages come from. But then I noticed that dnf > doesn't consider it excluded. Then I thought that probably PackageKit > doesn't use dnf.conf too. So, how should I excluded these packages? Well, > these were in rpmfusion-nonfree-updates repository, so I added the exclude > directive there. Then I found that I should add it to rpmfusion-nonfree > repository too. However, since I use yum-plugin-local I also have a local > repository (I actually copied the repository from another system, so it was > enabled on this system so that I could install software from it) which also > included these packages. Therefore, I should exclude "*nvidia*" in 3 > repository configuration files to make sure (hopefully!) that these will not > be installed by any package manager I know. > Suggestion: Please add a single configuration file to configure common > package manager options (Specially between DNF and PackageKit, which are > there to stay). As I mentioned in "F21 downloads repository metadata in 3 > places!" thread, Fedora package management should be consistent and > integrated; and the current situation is really frustrating. If I want to > exclude some packages, I should be able to do it once for all. If I want to > disable automatic download of metadata/packages, there should be a single > place where I can define my desired package management policy. If I want to > specify default metadata_expire timeout for all repositories, there should > be one place to do it. There really should be a single package management > policy that must be respected by every package manager in Fedora, specially > the main ones: DNF and PackageKit (and currently Yum). Hi, I understand the frustration. On the other hand, I personally hate anything that is centralized. Just an idea: what about a simple modular tool (maybe installed by default) which would be able to set options like this at all the places? Potentially it could be able to synchronize a subset of settings between given programs. -- Radek Holý Associate Software Engineer Software Management Team Red Hat Czech
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