Am 08.12.2014 um 12:34 schrieb Bastien Nocera:
Am 08.12.2014 um 11:45 schrieb Bastien Nocera:
Well, I'll understand these aspects.

But when I think about Linux, especially about Fedora, I'm thinking
about the freedom to make decisions. This means to me, to customize
and take advantage of my computer and in this case my operating
system.

You're free to select another firewall zone

so why do you not make secure defaults and say "You're free to select
another (more unsecure) firewall zone"?

1) It is secure enough and Eclipse listening to a port by default is a bug
(and I have the firewall specialists at Red Hat/Fedora to back me up)

I have Eclipse open and it's not listening to a port AFAIKT. I wonder what
obscure plugin is installed in Eclipse to make this happen.

Thanks for following up Aleksandar. Hopefully Reindl will let us know about that
so the bug can be fixed.

* first: it is not a Fedora package
* second: it does not matter

fixing applications to work around harmful firewall settings is the wrong direction - the *purpose* of a firewall is to *protect* against such things and i really don't get why this needs to be explained multiple times

that's the same as drive a car on the street, facing another driver ignoring his red light and instead try to stop your car just say "he is wrong and i am allowed to drive"

a sensible reaction would be stop, call the others names and live
the ignorant reaction would be get killed but be right at it

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