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> ----- Original Message -----
> > From: "Bastien Nocera" <bnoc...@redhat.com>
> > To: "Development discussions related to Fedora"
> > <devel@lists.fedoraproject.org>
> > Sent: Monday, December 8, 2014 1:22:04 PM
> > Subject: Re: "Workstation" Product defaults to wide-open firewall
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > > 
> > > Am 08.12.2014 um 11:45 schrieb Bastien Nocera:
> > > >> Well, I'll understand these aspects.
> > > >>
> > > >> But when I think about Linux, especially about Fedora, I'm thinking
> > > >> about the freedom to make decisions. This means to me, to customize
> > > >> and take advantage of my computer and in this case my operating
> > > >> system.
> > > >
> > > > You're free to select another firewall zone
> > > 
> > > so why do you not make secure defaults and say "You're free to select
> > > another (more unsecure) firewall zone"?
> > 
> > 1) It is secure enough and Eclipse listening to a port by default is a bug
> > (and I have the firewall specialists at Red Hat/Fedora to back me up)
> 
> I have Eclipse open and it's not listening to a port AFAIKT. I wonder what
> obscure plugin is installed in Eclipse to make this happen.

Thanks for following up Aleksandar. Hopefully Reindl will let us know about that
so the bug can be fixed.

Cheers
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