On Sat, Jan 25, 2014 at 7:41 AM, Adam Williamson <ad...@happyassassin.net> wrote: > drago01 <drag...@gmail.com> wrote: >>On Fri, Jan 24, 2014 at 12:16 AM, Adam Williamson <awill...@redhat.com> >>wrote: >>> On Thu, 2014-01-23 at 16:56 -0500, Brian J. Murrell wrote: >>> >>>> > As a side note, it also needs to be discussed how such a key >>feature of >>>> > the bluetooth stack could go unnoticed through QA, and how to >>avoid this >>>> > from happening again. >>>> >>>> Indeed. I wondered the same myself. >>> >>> I'm somewhat cheered that our product has apparently reached the >>quality >>> level where people consider a Bluetooth audio profile to be a 'key >>> feature', but so far as our QA standards are concerned, it ain't. >>> >>> This didn't really 'pass unnoticed' through QA. I noticed it, and was >>> supremely unconcerned. >> >>We should stop this "its crap anyway" attitude. That's the reason why >>people perceive fedora >>as beta / unstable / breaks often etc. >> >>Did you at least file a bug? >>-- >>devel mailing list >>devel@lists.fedoraproject.org >>https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/devel >>Fedora Code of Conduct: http://fedoraproject.org/code-of-conduct > > It's not about "it's crap anyway", it's about our trade off between > completeness and getting new stuff done. Fedora has *always* accepted major > changes before they reach full feature parity with the thing they're > replacing, and I don't see any indication anyone's expecting that to change.
There is a difference between a minor inconvenience (I have to do x, y and z instead of just a or have to use a different tool to do task x) and hardware that suddenly stops working after an upgrade. This thread is clearly an indicator that at least some people have different exceptions here. > Having said that I may have to go back and check things, because my memory is > that this is something everyone involved (including the devs and fesco) knew > about at the time, but it's being discussed as if it were a big surprise. OK. -- devel mailing list devel@lists.fedoraproject.org https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/devel Fedora Code of Conduct: http://fedoraproject.org/code-of-conduct
