Am 24.01.2014 17:12, schrieb Ralf Corsepius: > On 01/24/2014 04:57 PM, Reindl Harald wrote: >> Am 24.01.2014 16:40, schrieb Ralf Corsepius: >>> On 01/24/2014 04:06 PM, Reindl Harald wrote: >>>>> a) This would blow away all installed packages, which aren't available in >>>>> permanently enabled repos >>>> >>>> that is not true, try it out >>> Been there many times >> >> no, you did not and you did also not in your example below >> >>> Real world example with a package I maintain, which currently has an update >>> pending in updates-testing: >>> >>> # yum distro-sync >>> ... >>> Downgrading: >>> gumbo-parser x86_64 >>> 1.0-0.2.20131001gitd90ea2b.fc20 fedora >>> ... >>> Removed: >>> gumbo-parser.x86_64 0:1.0-0.2.20131204git87b99f2.fc20 >>> >>> Installed: >>> gumbo-parser.x86_64 0:1.0-0.2.20131001gitd90ea2b.fc20 >> >> nothing is blown away, you only did not read the output >> because it was *downgraded* and *not* removed > Rubbish - Stop being childish.
nobody here is childish, except maybe you >> this is *completly* different than "blown away" >> this is what distro-sync *is supposed to do* >> upgrade or downgrade any package which is in whatever current repo >> but it *does not* blow away packages not in any repo at all > > It if the package from updates-testing was fixing a critical bug on your > system, your system would be > malfunctioning afterwards and exactly *that* was what i said in my first reply while you stripped *exactly* that part out from your quote, most likely because you replied with a reflex without read exactly 5 lines completly but that is *not* "a) This would blow away all installed packages, which aren't available in permanently enabled repos" because that would mean *uninstall* any package which is currently not in a enabled repo - and that is *not* what distro-sync does below *again* my complete reply which is and was technical correct while your "would blow away" is not so before call others childish the next time before you reply to a message read also the second pararaph to avoid useless discussions -------- Original-Nachricht -------- Betreff: Re: Drawing lessons from fatal SELinux bug #1054350 Datum: Fri, 24 Jan 2014 16:06:21 +0100 Von: Reindl Harald <h.rei...@thelounge.net> An: devel@lists.fedoraproject.org Am 24.01.2014 15:55, schrieb Ralf Corsepius: > On 01/24/2014 01:39 PM, Kevin Kofler wrote: >> Adam Williamson wrote: >>> Even if we can do it on the mirrors, we have no way to 'recall' a >>> package from systems where it's already been installed (of course in the >>> current case that wouldn't have worked anyway, but we're discussing the >>> generic case here). >> >> Crazy idea of the day: Maybe our update tools should default to distro-sync >> rather than update? > No, for 2 reasons: > > a) This would blow away all installed packages, which aren't available in > permanently enabled repos that is not true, try it out otherwise some packages would be not installed on my machines after a dist-upgrade namely the ones never came from any repo and installed locally > Most common such case is having selectively installed packages from > updates-testing, because users are facing > problems with these packages' nominal versions *that* is the reason not to do so because it would downgrade anything updated explicitly from updates-testing,kde-testing,koji which would be a bad default
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