On Thu, Mar 22, 2012 at 9:57 AM, Chris Murphy <li...@colorremedies.com> wrote: > > > On Mar 22, 2012, at 2:10 AM, drago01 wrote: >>> >> Interesting. People I know just using them (tablets) as "toys" to play >> some causal games, surf the net & read mails. They go back to there >> laptops / desktops to do anything beyond that. > > Most people don't. It's important to understand most of us on this list > aren't most people.
I didn't claim thatI just countered your "my parents example" ... basically this kind of "evidence" is moot ... we need more data to judge that. > Toys? I said the people I was talking about used them as toys. (Please read what I wrote and don't try to refute stuff that isn't even written there). > FAA Approves IPad for Flight Navigation > http://www.tabletedia.com/news/2820.html > > Here's a quote from a doctor: "Even if you’re not at home, you can quickly > pick up your phone, view the EKG, and take care of patients remotely." > http://www.imedicalapps.com/2011/12/apple-top-iphone-ipad-medical-apps-2011/ > > This is doing 2 minute google searches... Again see the enterprise part "(it does make sense for some uses though)." ... those are those uses. I am not saying tablets are useless. I am just saying those are *different* devices. You don't replace a plane with a car either. > People read books on mobile devices. Computers? Ick. I'm not reading a book > on a computer. It's unpleasant. I can't read on a mobile device because I > need a browser with an average of 34 tabs. Most people lack my lunacy. Well I'd prefer a real boot or an ereader over a computer or tablet. > >> >>> And increasingly less often. Their phone? Can't live without it. It's >>> already a primary device. >> >> Well people couldn't live without "dumbphones" either so this is >> natural progress. > > They could. They had desktops or laptops. Most people would replace their > phone in a day if it broke or were lost. A home computer? Weekend. Maybe next > weekend. > Most people that buy smartphones today *do* have laptops / desktoüs. >> "I agree that we will see more smartphones and tablets in the future" >> ... yes no doubt that market still has a potential to grow. I just do >> not believe that a significant amount of people will throw there >> desktops/laptops away and use tablets / smartphones instead. > > Most people will. There will be no advantage to a desktop or laptop. So far, > speed is all that's really come up. That's going to be a non-issue in a > hurry. There's BILLIONS of dollars pouring into mobile and tablet right now. > It's what people want. Actually speed isn't an advantage see the (now dead) netbook hype. For most people current speed is "good enough" (hence no need to go buy a new computer every year). >> >> Tablets are 99% consumption only devices. Your are missing the >> "production market" ... people do use computers to do work, write the >> apps that the tablet/smartphone people enjoy etc. > > Developer market? Image editing and video editing stations? Small markets. > Enough to maintain x86? Yeah sure, for a while. But as a majority? Office, DTP and probably others or in short "content creation". > Mobile market isn't just syphoning users from the consumer desktop market, > it's growing the market. > > >> So no there is still a marked beyond the consumption only devices >> (tablets) and the data centers (servers). The world is not black and >> white. > > It is a shrinking market. it is a saturated marked. >> >>> Thunderbolt on an ARM tablet to connect a larger display, bluetooth >>> keyboard, and internet access and the overwhelming majority can do what >>> they need to do. >> >> Which is a lot more work then simply open the laptop and start working. > > Consumers are complicated. ... >>> For home users, it has already happened a while ago. They don't need a >>> desktop. They probably don't need a laptop either. >> >> When home user == "only consumes content" then yes but that is not >> necessarily the only use of computers / laptops at home either. > > It's the majority case. Email, web browser, books, Netflix, and it's a baby > sitter. It's like candy multiplied by TV for kids. Way more interesting for > them than desktop computers or laptops. > -- devel mailing list devel@lists.fedoraproject.org https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/devel
