On Mi, 23.04.25 13:27, Zbigniew Jędrzejewski-Szmek (zbys...@in.waw.pl) wrote:

> On Tue, Apr 22, 2025 at 03:57:42PM +0200, Lennart Poettering wrote:
> > I don't follow? The UID assignments are stored in /etc/passwd,
> > i.e. your example config file and the UID assignment are stored at the
> > same place, so how can they get out of sync?
>
> rpm-ostree and bootc attempt to merge the local changes and the
> "upstream" changes (i.e. the image contents). The initial /etc/passwd
> from the image becomes the first version of the file in the
> deployment. Afterwards, if the the user modifies the file locally,
> then that local version is used. If the user does not modify the file
> locally, then on updates of the image, the file would be updated.

But that seems to the problem here really: if the file is deployed,
and its effect propagated elsewhere it is not something that should be
updated without consideration for this propagation anymore.

This is clearly a bug in ostree if you ask me: /etc/passwd should
under no cicumstances be flushed out entirely: once deployed it must
remain local configuration.

> See https://ostreedev.github.io/ostree/deployment/#contents-of-a-deployment.
>
> This particular version of this problem is a result of how rpm-ostree
> and bootc do this. But a similar problem would manifest in any
> scenario with local users/groups and "upstream" users/groups
> being allocated from the same range.

In the systemd-sysusers model /etc/passwd is always managed locally,
not centrally.

It's really weird to me that ostree seems to manage /etc/passwd in two
distinct, conflicting ways: once via systemd-sysusers, and once via
their ostree stuff. They should figure out that conflict, and decide
which path to go.

Sorry, but I don't accept at all that this was a universal
problem. It's clearly not: it's a problem ostree has created for
itself, and should address for itself.

Lennart

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