On Wed, Jan 22, 2025 at 3:08 PM Jan Drögehoff <sentrycraft...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> Fabio Valentini wrote:
> > On Wed, Jan 22, 2025 at 10:52 AM Daniel P. Berrangé berra...@redhat.com 
> > wrote:
> > > An increasingly large part of the ecosystem is working and deploying
> > > a way that Fedora (and derivative distros) are relegated to only
> > > delivering what's illustrated as Ring 1. This is especially the case
> > > in the CoreOS/SilverBlue spins, but we see it in traditional installs
> > > too which only install enough of Fedora to bootstrap the outside
> > > world. Meanwhile ring 2 is the space filled by either language specific
> > > tools (pip, cargo, rubygems, etc), and some docker container images,
> > > while ring 3 is the space filled by Flatpaks and further docker
> > > container images. Fedora meanwhile continues trying to package and
> > > deliver everything the same way as we did for decades, as if this
> > > shift were not happening.
> > > This kind of misses the point that Fedora packages do provide (in my
> > opinion) quite a lot of value on top of most language-specific package
> > package managers.
> > pip is a little bit more advanced than other tools here, but `go
> > install` and `cargo install` are extremely simplistic.
> > They download sources, build locally, and can only install executables
> > into the user's $PATH, nothing else.
>
> > The RPM package provides:
> > - no need to download sources and compile everything locally
> >   (including installation of the Rust compiler, C compiler,
> > development headers for C libraries that are used, etc.)
> > - system-wide installation integrated with the package manager
> > - integrated installation of shell completions, manual pages, etc.
>
> - no need to download sources and compile everything locally
> - system-wide installation integrated with the package manager
>
> Are all of these true for libraries?

No, `cargo install` (and I think `go install` too) only works for
applications, not for library-only projects.

Fabio
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