Il 06/01/25 18:50, Fabio Valentini ha scritto:
> On Mon, Jan 6, 2025 at 6:03 PM Stephen Smoogen <ssmoo...@redhat.com> wrote:
>> On Mon, 6 Jan 2025 at 11:49, Fabio Valentini <decatho...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>> On Mon, Jan 6, 2025 at 10:05 AM Mattia Verga via devel
>>> <devel@lists.fedoraproject.org> wrote:
>>>> Despite 0.16 being available as tag in repository since 2015, libnova
>>>> was never updated and it's still 0.15 in Fedora.
>>>>
>>>> I have notified the package maintainer long ago [1], but I never got a
>>>> reply. So I plan to push an update as provenpackager, which will include
>>>> a soname bump (from libnova-0.15.so.0 to libnova-0.16.so.0) and rebuild
>>>> all dependent packages in a side-tag for Rawhide. The list of affected
>>>> packages is:
>>> Please don't use provenpackager privileges for this kind of thing.
>>> If the maintainer is truly unresponsive, that's what the unresponsive
>>> maintainer process is for.
>>
>> If this is not what 'proven packagers' are allowed to do, it might be good 
>> to have everyone who has proven packager go through some sort of 
>> "retraining" as what Mattia announced doing has been common practice for a 
>> long time. It actually seems covered by 
>> https://docs.fedoraproject.org/en-US/fesco/Who_is_allowed_to_modify_which_packages/
>>
>> If the packager doesn’t keep track of those items, then other experienced 
>> packagers are free to fix stuff for them.
>>
>> I am expecting that this is an area which needs more clarity.
> On the page you linked, there's a list of examples of situations when
> using PP privileges is appropriate, just below the paragraph you
> quoted - security issues, bugs that cause data loss, etc. But "just
> update to a new version" is not on the list. That's clear enough in my
> book ... but sure, documentation can always be improved. For example,
> I'm not sure if this page predates the non-responsive maintainer
> process (it feels very old), so maybe it just has never been adapted
> to its existence.
>
> Fabio

Oh, I've missed the fact that I indeed have commit rights to libnova 
through astro-sig... so I'll use my PP rights just to rebuild stellarium 
(kstars is under astro-sig too and the other packages I maintain them 
directly).

If that's not ok neither, I will ask stellarium maintainers to rebuild 
the package under the side-tag when ready.

Mattia


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