On 6/30/23 10:22, Jonathan Wakely wrote:
On Mon, 26 Jun 2023 at 19:10, Miro Hrončok <mhron...@redhat.com> wrote:
We would also need to ensure UTC work even without tzdata installed.

Yes, that would be useful.

Although IMHO even that seems like a nice-to-have not an absolute
showstopper. Most containerized workloads that don't need time zone
info probably aren't using ZoneInfo("UTC") to convert from UTC to UTC,
they're probably not using ZoneInfo at all.


I would be reluctant to carry this as a downstream-only patch. And the upstream
window for changes like this has already closed for Python 3.12.

Rather than expecting runtimes and applications to be fixed to work
without any timezone information, perhaps the best way forward would be
to create a tzdata-utc (and similar Java and Python packages).

(Sorry if this has already been suggested & rejected.  I don't remember
seeing it in this thread, but ...)

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