On Thu, 2022-02-10 at 16:57 -0500, Ben Cotton wrote:
> On Thu, Feb 10, 2022 at 1:39 PM Zbigniew Jędrzejewski-Szmek
> <zbys...@in.waw.pl> wrote:
> > 
> > since you have the script handy, could you check how many (non-pp)
> > packagers would be reported as inactive pretty please? Maybe with the
> > inactivility threshold raised to 1 year instead of 0.5 y.
> 
> I had to run it a second time with the listing disabled because the
> first time the output was too long for my terminal's scrollback. :-)
> 
> But! Of 2453 packagers, 1514 have not submitted a Koji build since at
> least 2021-02-11. 1311 of those have not submitted a Koji build since
> at least 2020-02-06. An additional 113 do not exist in Koji.
> 
> > I think that if we disabled completely inactive accounts after a year
> > or two, this would be reasonable from security perspective. There are
> > many many packages which are now maintained by other people so packagers
> > can effectively maintain co-ownership without committing to a package
> > for years.
> 
> I have concerns with this approach. I would guess there's a long tail
> of packagers that maintain relatively few packages. These packages
> might not have frequent upstream releases or require new manual
> builds. Someone who hasn't needed to build a package in 13 months may
> still be active in other ways and it would be hostile to strip them of
> packager permission in that case. We'd want to be very careful about
> how we define "active" (which is a thorny question project-wide that
> we don't have a great answer for). We'd also want to give people the
> chance to say "no, I'm still here", which makes this a fairly manual
> process. If we were to automate it, we absolutely should have a
> trivial way for people to regain packager status (i.e. not have to get
> re-sponsored, etc).
> 
> I would support removing the 113 who don't exist in Koji. And maybe
> any packagers without a build over an exceedingly long period of time
> (say 5 years?) as a starting point.

Some may be backups for others, and do not normally create builds but
collaborate to the maintenance via patches.

Simo.

-- 
Simo Sorce
RHEL Crypto Team
Red Hat, Inc



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