On Mon, Dec 27, 2021 at 08:44:17PM +0100, Matthias Runge wrote: > > > On Sun, 26 Dec 2021 at 23:32, Reon Beon via devel > > <devel@lists.fedoraproject.org> wrote: > > Update? > > https://pagure.io/fedora-infrastructure/issue/8455 > > > > > > I am going to be overly blunt here. Messages like this do NOT help. > > 1. Most of the people who are paid to work on this are on break for 1/2 of > > December and some are taking off parts of January too. They are also NOT > > paid to only work on this, but mainly to help volunteers cover parts that > > volunteers run out of time to do. If there are no volunteers then those > > people paid are filling out many other jobs. In the many places Fedora has > > volunteers, the months of November, December, January, February are usually > > a lot of family time activities with various New Year and Soltice and other > > regional holidays. > > 2. Messages without extra contact sound like a Boss demanding status > > updates because they don't feel like they are getting enough work out of > > people. It instead demotivates the people working on it (whther they are a > > volunteer or a paid person) and makes them less inclined to a) give an > > update or b) actually finish the project. > > 3. This is a major project. > > a) There are multiple python packages which need to be make into rpms which > > no one has done. These are packages which need dedicated volunteers on them > > to keep them up to date and working. This is about a month or 2 of work > > because packagers aren't a free resource. > > b) Once those packages are built, then a staging instance needs to be > > deployed and the current databases imported into this. This is going to be > > a tricky problem and there will be multiple imports and blow away and > > redeploy because very few Databases travel well without some manual > > intervention. Once those those tricks are figured out.. > > c) you take down the live deployment and roll out the new deployment. You > > work out all the bugs and go live. > > Thank you Stephen for stating what should have been said earlier. Messages as > those in the thread above help me to adjust email filters. > > Personally, I am not paid for working on Django. This is my free time with > the family, and I am rarely checking emails. Threads like this one reminds me > not to bother with such issues when I’m off. > As Stephen and Matthias said. I'm not even in CPE, I'm giving a hand on the packaging front to unblock, and while I'm paid by $dayjob to make improvements to our Linux upstreams this is not really a top priority either.
As for the other post that I'm not even going to bother replying separately (please don't spam the list like that) - this doesn't really feel like a Fedora Change, although it could be one. The servers that host the mailing lists run RHEL, and I'm hoping to get the dependencies all branched and built before RHEL 9 gets officially released. > If anyone wants to see more progress, then please contribute! If you don’t, > just shut up; you don’t have any right to request anything from volunteers. > This, 100%. Best regards, -- Michel Alexandre Salim profile: https://keyoxide.org/mic...@michel-slm.name
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