> On Sun, 26 Dec 2021 at 23:32, Reon Beon via devel 
> <devel@lists.fedoraproject.org> wrote:
> Update?
> https://pagure.io/fedora-infrastructure/issue/8455
> 
> 
> I am going to be overly blunt here. Messages like this do NOT help. 
> 1. Most of the people who are paid to work on this are on break for 1/2 of 
> December and some are taking off parts of January too. They are also NOT paid 
> to only work on this, but mainly to help volunteers cover parts that 
> volunteers run out of time to do. If there are no volunteers then those 
> people paid are filling out many other jobs. In the many places Fedora has 
> volunteers, the months of November, December, January, February are usually a 
> lot of family time activities with various New Year and Soltice and other 
> regional holidays. 
> 2. Messages without extra contact sound like a Boss demanding status updates 
> because they don't feel like they are getting enough work out of people. It 
> instead demotivates the people working on it (whther they are a volunteer or 
> a paid person) and makes them less inclined to a) give an update or b) 
> actually finish the project.
> 3. This is a major project. 
> a) There are multiple python packages which need to be make into rpms which 
> no one has done. These are packages which need dedicated volunteers on them 
> to keep them up to date and working. This is about a month or 2 of work 
> because packagers aren't a free resource.
> b) Once those packages are built, then a staging instance needs to be 
> deployed and the current databases imported into this. This is going to be a 
> tricky problem and there will be multiple imports and blow away and redeploy 
> because very few Databases travel well without some manual intervention. Once 
> those those tricks are figured out..
> c) you take down the live deployment and roll out the new deployment. You 
> work out all the bugs and go live.

Thank you Stephen for stating what should have been said earlier. Messages as 
those in the thread above help me to adjust email filters.

Personally, I am not paid for working on Django. This is my free time with the 
family, and I am rarely checking emails. Threads like this one reminds me not 
to bother with such issues when I’m off.

If anyone wants to see more progress, then please contribute! If you don’t, 
just shut up; you don’t have any right to request anything from volunteers.

Thank you.
Matthias
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