> Am 06.10.2021 um 07:08 schrieb Michal Srb <m...@redhat.com 
> <mailto:m...@redhat.com>>:
> 
> Hi folks,
> 
> @Matthew Miller Are you still trying to save Fedora from packaging the ocean? 
> :)
> 
> On Mon, Oct 4, 2021 at 9:10 PM Fabio Valentini <decatho...@gmail.com> wrote:
> On Mon, Oct 4, 2021 at 8:49 PM Matthew Miller <mat...@fedoraproject.org> 
> wrote:
>> 
>> On Mon, Sep 27, 2021 at 03:09:08PM +0200, Mario Torre wrote:
>>> I'm not sure what's the best solution, but I guess the number one
>>> reason to have packages within the Fedora distribution is for a matter
>>> of trust, if this is the case I would argue that a curated list of
>>> maven packages served via a Fedora managed repository would be a
>>> better investment.
>> 
>> I'd love to see someone interested in this pursue this idea! I know we
>> talked about it as long ago as... Flock Prague... and probably before.
> 
> …..
> 
> Fedora could ship just Java applications that would bundle JARs (whatever 
> version they need) from the Fedora Maven repository. I don't see this as a 
> problem, as long as it would be possible to track what JARs are bundled in 
> what application.
> 
> Fedora maintainers could then focus on maintaining applications, and not 
> maintaining a ton of individual libraries that nobody really cares about that 
> much.

I've roughly thought this through with our Java Web CMS project (we don't 
currently create Fedora rpm). I think with this idea the effort would be 
noticeably reduced. A number of intermediate steps could be omitted. 

My main question: how can we get this going? 

Normally we would first need a concise description and then (try to) discuss it 
on java-devel. 

Or is this a case of "do-ocracy“?

And who is able / willing to (co-)work?
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