On Wed, Apr 1, 2020 at 6:39 AM Stephen John Smoogen <smo...@gmail.com> wrote: > > > > On Wed, 1 Apr 2020 at 08:16, Pierre-Yves Chibon <pin...@pingoured.fr> wrote: >> >> On Wed, Apr 01, 2020 at 11:49:41AM +0200, Clement Verna wrote: >> > There is also an historical taste to write in house applications for >> > things that don't really seems critical to the Fedora Project, for >> > example >> > do we really need a custom calendar application ? or election >> > application >> > ? It seems that every time we have a problem the solution is let's write >> > something to solve that problem, instead of trying to find a compromise >> > and reuse existing solutions. >> >> Could please stop this? >> > > This is me also asking this. > > >> >> The continuous theme of "we're building things because we like it" is unfair >> to >> all the people who have been involved in the infrastructure at some point in >> the >> past. >> It is assuming that there was no reasons, that they did not do their >> research, >> that they didn't think it through. >> >> The requirements for applications 3 years ago were vastly different from what >> they are today. >> If you don't know the historical reasons for an app, there are a number of >> people around who can answer them, but please let's stop assuming things >> which >> are at the end of the day insulting and demotivating for the people who were >> involved then and are still now. >> >> This goes for fedocal, for pagure, for anitya. I've seen this question come >> up >> often enough (here and elsewhere): "Why aren't we using libraries.io instead >> of >> anytia?" >> Well, the simple reason is: because libraries.io *did* *not* *exist* when >> anitya >> was created. So maybe we are not the bad ones that didn't do their research. >> > > I am also sick and tired of this. For many years, a central drive for Fedora > Infra was about building the Free and Open Source tools to allow a community > to work together without using closed source tools. This was a constant > requirement of the community to us at the time with wanting something to > 'compete' against Canonical's forge and Canonicals' other tools. Things have > changed but instead of saying "Good job, thanks for all that work but we have > decided to change.", our efforts are brought up constantly as a bunch of NIH > who wasted time and effort. And it doesn't matter how many times people are > reminded that we had reasons and research for doing this from 2005 to 2015.. > it gets thrown in our faces that we reinvented the wheel when there were > clearly better things to spend our time on. >
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