On Tue, Mar 31, 2020 at 6:32 PM Adam Williamson <adamw...@fedoraproject.org>
wrote:

> On Tue, 2020-03-31 at 17:47 +0200, jkone...@redhat.com wrote:
> > -- snip --
> > > As for Pagure itself, I think this is where we fundamentally
> > > disagree.
> > > I think it behooves us to own and provide an experience tailored for
> > > our community from beginning to end. That's why we have Koji, Bodhi,
> > > Dist-Git, and many other tools in that part of the lifecycle. The
> > > packager experience is literally the lifeblood of the project, and
> > > our
> > > contributors are the core of what makes Fedora successful. Pagure
> > > gives us an opportunity to do right by them that I *really* don't
> > > think we can do with any alternatives.
> > >
> > > That does *not* mean that CPE team should be the sole owner of the
> > > Pagure *codebase*. On that point, I agree. And that's why I've spent
> > > a
> > > lot of time and energy since late 2018 working on building up that
> > > community. It's finally starting to bear fruit too: there's at least
> > > one entity interested in building a product around it and
> > > contributing
> > > to help support that product, there's the FSF preparing to launch a
> > > new forge using Pagure, there's the Trisquel GNU+Linux distribution
> > > working on a Pagure deployment to host their code and packaging, and
> > > there's a few other things I've got up my sleeve to help broaden the
> > > community with not just users, but also contributors.
> >
> > It's great to hear this. Thanks a lot Neal for trying to find
> > consumers. I'm not sure if this information was available to Fedora
> > infrastructure during the decision. It means that we may have another
> > contributors.
>
> I specifically mentioned at least the FSF angle on this mailing list,
> over a month ago:
>
>
> https://lists.fedoraproject.org/archives/list/devel@lists.fedoraproject.org/message/EJAKU3MO4T5ZEWEBUWIRSGBWTFQU44QK/
>
> so at least that part certainly *should* have been, if we assume it's
> reasonable to expect those making this decision to be paying attention
> to this list.
>

We were aware and we do follow this list.

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