On Wed, 29 Jan 2020 at 16:23, Leigh Griffin <lgrif...@redhat.com> wrote:
>
> On Wed, Jan 29, 2020 at 10:35 AM Iñaki Ucar <iu...@fedoraproject.org> wrote:
>>
>> On Wed, 29 Jan 2020 at 00:08, Leigh Griffin <lgrif...@redhat.com> wrote:
>> >
>> > On Tue, Jan 28, 2020, 22:06 Iñaki Ucar <iu...@fedoraproject.org> wrote:
>> >>
>> >> On Tue, 28 Jan 2020 at 20:58, Leigh Griffin <lgrif...@redhat.com> wrote:
>> >> >
>> >> > This thread is serving as a source of requirements (although it has 
>> >> > meandered dramatically away from that)
>> >>
>> >> When I first read the post, my thought was: wow, what a convoluted and
>> >> abstruse way of saying "we want to abandon Pagure". Probably this
>> >> wasn't your intent, but that's what I got. And given the reactions,
>> >> other people too.
>> >
>> > The linked blog to the ODF is very explicit that Pagure is one of the 3 
>> > forge options we are considering. I can't stress enough that it's a viable 
>> > choice and ultimately what we opt for will come down to an analysis driven 
>> > by the requirements gathered. I'm unsure how the blog has been interpreted 
>> > any other way but hopefully this clears it up.
>>
>> The ODF is very explicit in the problem statement, and it specifically
>> and clearly says that:
>>
>> 1. Pagure does not align with CPE.
>
> Correct and it's why we said this line, which you might have missed:
> "While we can make exceptions to the mission statement, we first need to know 
> why we should consider a specific exception."

I didn't miss it, I was obviously cherry-picking, but the point was to
argue why this thread "meandered dramatically away from" the initial
purpose: if that was my initial feeling at first reading, probably
that was the case for others.

> CPE has not committed a team to it in over a year, we do state that as a 
> driving factor to why we want to engage in this conversation but your 
> assumption here is based on a particular outcome that sees Pagure not chosen. 
> If Pagure is chosen, we will commit a team. We are very clear on that.

It wasn't so clear to me, but good to know.

> Tell me what you do and how you interact with a forge? That's the point of 
> this exercise.

Those with the most complex workflows would provide most value here. I
only maintain a few simple packages at src.fp, and most of my work is
in Copr.

However, I would say that integration with FAS should be a
requirement. Owning the development of the specific tool (whether a
forge or not) is not a must, in principle, but it's a good thing IMO.
Please correct me if I'm wrong, but that was one of the drivers e.g.
to develop Copr instead of going for OBS.

Iñaki
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