On Mon, Nov 26, 2018 at 03:57:25PM +0100, Tomasz Kłoczko wrote:
> On Mon, 26 Nov 2018 at 15:19, Tom Gundersen <t...@jklm.no> wrote:
> [..]
> >>> What Fedora version? Ideally provide specific rpm versions.
> >>> dbus-in-F29 != dbus-in-F30 now.
> >>
> >> I’m talking about F30 recent change in which has been implemented switch 
> >> to dubs-broker.
> >
> > Thanks for the report, and sorry for the inconvenience.
> 
> np .. when tree is chopped chops are flying around :)
> 
> >  There was indeed a bug in the dbus-broker spec file, which we now fixed 
> > with version 16-7 (should land in rawhide any minute).
> 
> IMO it would be good to learn something out of that small fault
> because few thing went really odd way.
> 
> 1) if dbus service crashes/is not availaible temporary IMO it wold be
> good to prepare whole desktop apps code to not crash but handle dbus
> disconnection and maybe display centered message that it is not
> possible to connect to dbus. Crashing everything looks really *bad*.
> 
> 3) any other dependency on running dbus service should be IMO closely
> investigated and if something is just crashing it should be
> changed/redesigned to handle this to at least log that  to system logs
> (nothing like this after all was possible to find in systemd journal
> or rsyslogd logs).

  Feel free to provide patches.  There was 15 years to fix it.

  Alternatively, dbus-broker may store fds in systemd and serialize state
over restarts.

-- 
Tomasz Torcz                "Funeral in the morning, IDE hacking
xmpp: zdzich...@chrome.pl    in the afternoon and evening." - Alan Cox
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