On Tue, Jul 31, 2018 at 3:40 PM Michal Novotny <cl...@redhat.com> wrote:
> On Tue, Jul 31, 2018 at 1:25 PM Jeff Johnson <n3npq....@gmail.com> wrote: > >> This simply is not true. >> >> Whatever "rpm format" means, historically RPM itself has always gone to >> some lengths not to expose E: to users to simplify the endless fog of >> dependency hell clutter. >> > > Yeah, something which is eluding my understanding. > > This will be all off-topic by me again but I think it might be worth to be > mentioned at least... > > Given that epoch plays an important role in version comparison (therefore > during package upgrades), it should be visible in rpm names. > > E.g. > > $ rpm -q bind-libs > > should return: > > bind-libs-32:9.11.3-6.fc28.x86_64 > > on my system. > > It should be clear directly from package name why e.g.: > > bind-libs-32:9.11.3-6.fc28.x86_64 < bind-libs-33:9.9.4-61.fc28.x86_64 > > Hiding the epoch does not serve any purpose here (or anywhere). Epoch > number is something that should be explicitly present in package name so > that > users know what's going on when they can't update a package. > > Of course, ideally epoch should stay zero if possible and only be used as > a "safety mechanism" when upstream does something unexpected but even if > epoch is zero, > it should still be put into rpm name. > > This is very remotely related to: > https://github.com/rpm-software-management/rpm/issues/450 > > clime > > P.S.: note that if Epoch: tag is missing in a spec file, it should be > assumed epoch = 0. I think the behavior I am describing is quite natural, > that's why I am using the word "should". > Sorry for the tone in this sentence. I just think rpm is a bit needlessly "bent" in these areas. clime > > _______________________________________________ >> devel mailing list -- devel@lists.fedoraproject.org >> To unsubscribe send an email to devel-le...@lists.fedoraproject.org >> Fedora Code of Conduct: https://getfedora.org/code-of-conduct.html >> List Guidelines: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines >> List Archives: >> https://lists.fedoraproject.org/archives/list/devel@lists.fedoraproject.org/message/XHYTGM2L7PNOWNYKA6T26B7ACDGMX3DD/ >> >
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