The kde list is: k...@lists.fedoraproject.org Stephen is correct, this discussion shouldn't be on the development list for the reasons he mentioned above. I've copied the kde-list. please respond there if desired and remove reference to the development list before sending.
I'd just like to reiterate my earlier comment: "I believe you are missing the point of defaults.... which is to provide as complete environment as possible out of the box. Since this is a KDE spin, we should be providing as complete of a KDE environment as possible. Users shouldn't be required to go on a treasure hunt to seek out available KDE applications. The idea is to showcase what is available in KDE. If you don't want to use a KDE default you can easily either go into settings and change the defaults, remove the package you don't want, etc." It's a KDE spin, not a Google spin, GNOME spin, UNITY spin, KDE-Lite spin etc. On Mon, Oct 2, 2017 at 8:06 AM, Stephen John Smoogen <smo...@gmail.com> wrote: > On 2 October 2017 at 10:57, Sylvia Sánchez <bhkoh...@gmail.com> wrote: > > > > Hello Stephen, > > > > So, according to you, this discussion won't change much KDE Spin? > > I am trying to move this conversation from being bikeshedding to > possibly accomplishing something. The devel list is meant for general > discussion topics which affect the distribution as a whole or for > people to try and find who to contact on a specific problem. > Conversations on editions or effects which are run by SIGs do not seem > to get 'fixed' regularly in here because the people who are working on > it may not be on this list or htey may only filter it for once in a > while reading. They are more likely to be cognizant of emails and > topics that are on the dedicated SIG email. > > > > > Besides, how do I join a SIG? Do you have a link by chance? > > https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/SIGs/KDE > https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/KDE > https://lists.fedoraproject.org/admin/lists/kde.lists.fedoraproject.org/ > > > > > Regards, > > Silvia > > > > > > > > > > 2017-10-02 15:16 GMT+01:00 Stephen John Smoogen <smo...@gmail.com>: > >> > >> On 2 October 2017 at 08:45, Sylvia Sánchez <bhkoh...@gmail.com> wrote: > >> > > >> > Hello, > >> > > >> > It's not only a pain, it often ends in an unusable system. > >> > About the browsers, I don't like much Konqueror, actually is one of > >> > those > >> > programmes I uninstall first if it's around. What about Chromium > >> > instead? > >> > It's like Chrome and it's desktop agnostic so it works well and looks > >> > good > >> > in any environment. > >> > > >> > Cheers, > >> > Silvia > >> > > >> > >> The way to make changes on the desktop spins is to join the SIG which > >> produces the sping and work there. Ways to make it work is find out > >> why they have chosen those defaults, what effects your wanted changes > >> would have, and do other people feel the same way. Talking about it on > >> this list is not going to get any changes or alternative spins (the > >> KDE minimal). > >> > >> A spin can look like a simple thing which is freely made, but it is a > >> lot of work which is why SIGs are needed for each one. Coming up with > >> what is going to be on it is part of the work because everyone wants > >> something different. There is testing the spin, making sure it doesn't > >> go over certain size limits, working out problems with icons and > >> discoverability, and similar tasks. Every SIG who is doing a spin are > >> always needing people who can help on those other items so helping > >> there would be a good way to explain why making other changes is > >> useful. > >> > >> > > >> > > >> > 2017-10-02 12:58 GMT+01:00 Miroslav Suchý <msu...@redhat.com>: > >> >> > >> >> Dne 9.9.2017 v 17:47 Gerald B. Cox napsal(a): > >> >> > > >> >> > I believe you are missing the point of defaults.... which is to > >> >> > provide > >> >> > as complete environment as possible out of the box. > >> >> > >> >> I am a user of KDE Spin. And I *never* used this way. I always have > >> >> been > >> >> using it as a source for LiveImage so I can > >> >> have GUI with KDE (SDDM, Plasma, Kwin) and then install everything > else > >> >> I > >> >> need. It is much better than using official > >> >> sping with Gnome and then removing it (it is a huge pain). > >> >> > >> >> Thou I would leave konqueror on the list as it is always good to have > >> >> some > >> >> internet browser in the minimal installation. > >> >> > >> >> Mirek > >> >> _______________________________________________ > >> >> devel mailing list -- devel@lists.fedoraproject.org > >> >> To unsubscribe send an email to devel-le...@lists.fedoraproject.org > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > _______________________________________________ > >> > devel mailing list -- devel@lists.fedoraproject.org > >> > To unsubscribe send an email to devel-le...@lists.fedoraproject.org > >> > > >> > >> > >> > >> -- > >> Stephen J Smoogen. > >> _______________________________________________ > >> devel mailing list -- devel@lists.fedoraproject.org > >> To unsubscribe send an email to devel-le...@lists.fedoraproject.org > > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > devel mailing list -- devel@lists.fedoraproject.org > > To unsubscribe send an email to devel-le...@lists.fedoraproject.org > > > > > > -- > Stephen J Smoogen. > _______________________________________________ > devel mailing list -- devel@lists.fedoraproject.org > To unsubscribe send an email to devel-le...@lists.fedoraproject.org >
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