Dne 6.12.2016 v 15:19 Kamil Paral napsal(a):
>> To all Rawhide users, be careful with update of mutter. It seems that
>> mutter-3.23.2-2.fc26 is broken [1], which prevents you from log in to
>> your system. Downgrade to mutter-3.23.1-2.fc26.x86_64 workarounded the
>> issues for me.
>>
>>
>> Vít
>>
>>
>> [1] https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1401317
> This serves as a nice example why we need to tweak how Rawhide works if we 
> want people actually running on it. I talked to rtcm on #fedora-desktop and 
> the reason is that gnome-shell 3.23.2 needs to be updated in sync with 
> mutter. Mutter has been built just fine [1], but gnome-shell build failed 
> [2]. And, snap, GNOME users are immediately (at the next repo push) screwed 
> because of a failed build.
>
> Of course developers will sooner or later fix the broken build, but often 
> there are issues can't be fixed immediately. And the successful mutter build 
> can't be taken back either. No good solution there.
>
> So, we either need:
> a) updates-testing for Rawhide - e.g. with auto-push even with 0 karma after 
> 3 days, doesn't matter, it would still allow us to prevent many of these 
> issues
> or
> b) decouple building and submitting to Rawhide - because the idea that 
> everything and anything built is immediately part of the release seems very 
> broken to me. At least if we want people to use it. If we want just a huge 
> repo of frequently broken bleeding edge packages, yes, that's exactly what we 
> have.
>
> With b) solution the QA still can't stop bad updates, but at least the 
> maintainer can decide to not push it to Rawhide (seeing that only one of two 
> mandatory packages has been successfully built). With a) solution the 
> maintainers can do the same thing, and other people can detect and stop 
> broken updates as well.
>
>
> [1] http://koji.fedoraproject.org/koji/buildinfo?buildID=820286
> [2] http://koji.fedoraproject.org/koji/buildinfo?buildID=822182
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In this context, I have to mention my "Bodhi For Rawhide?" [1] proposal
again ....


Vít


[1]
https://lists.fedoraproject.org/archives/list/devel@lists.fedoraproject.org/thread/ESSPQTVYU4CO63XXXRZJNPG2P5335TEF/#ESSPQTVYU4CO63XXXRZJNPG2P5335TEF
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