> To all Rawhide users, be careful with update of mutter. It seems that
> mutter-3.23.2-2.fc26 is broken [1], which prevents you from log in to
> your system. Downgrade to mutter-3.23.1-2.fc26.x86_64 workarounded the
> issues for me.
> 
> 
> Vít
> 
> 
> [1] https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1401317

This serves as a nice example why we need to tweak how Rawhide works if we want 
people actually running on it. I talked to rtcm on #fedora-desktop and the 
reason is that gnome-shell 3.23.2 needs to be updated in sync with mutter. 
Mutter has been built just fine [1], but gnome-shell build failed [2]. And, 
snap, GNOME users are immediately (at the next repo push) screwed because of a 
failed build.

Of course developers will sooner or later fix the broken build, but often there 
are issues can't be fixed immediately. And the successful mutter build can't be 
taken back either. No good solution there.

So, we either need:
a) updates-testing for Rawhide - e.g. with auto-push even with 0 karma after 3 
days, doesn't matter, it would still allow us to prevent many of these issues
or
b) decouple building and submitting to Rawhide - because the idea that 
everything and anything built is immediately part of the release seems very 
broken to me. At least if we want people to use it. If we want just a huge repo 
of frequently broken bleeding edge packages, yes, that's exactly what we have.

With b) solution the QA still can't stop bad updates, but at least the 
maintainer can decide to not push it to Rawhide (seeing that only one of two 
mandatory packages has been successfully built). With a) solution the 
maintainers can do the same thing, and other people can detect and stop broken 
updates as well.


[1] http://koji.fedoraproject.org/koji/buildinfo?buildID=820286
[2] http://koji.fedoraproject.org/koji/buildinfo?buildID=822182
_______________________________________________
devel mailing list -- devel@lists.fedoraproject.org
To unsubscribe send an email to devel-le...@lists.fedoraproject.org

Reply via email to