On Wed, Apr 3, 2024 at 11:02 PM Oliver Smith-Denny <o...@linux.microsoft.com> wrote: > > On 4/3/2024 1:38 PM, Michael D Kinney wrote: > > Hi Oliver, > > > > I missed this response. Did not show up in thread for some reason. > > No worries. > > > > > But we can continue these topics on email. > > > > The TianoCore roles and responsibilities are documented here: > > > > > > https://github.com/tianocore/tianocore.github.io/wiki/TianoCore-Who-we-are > > > > If there are maintainers are not following their responsibilities, then > > please let us know and we can work together to find additional maintainers. > > Thanks, as I've mentioned in several of my last patches to MdeModulePkg, > I think we need an additional top level maintainer there who is > currently active. Liming has obviously been a huge part of edk2, but has > many roles and has been quiet on MdeModulePkg patches for over a month. > His input is greatly valued, but it seems he could use some help > maintaining the package so we can keep up developer flow, I had multiple > patches that contained items such as fixes for UEFI spec violations and > boot breaks that were sitting with multiple reviews that were not > getting the maintainer review and merging in.
We had a long discussion about this in this thread: https://openfw.io/edk2-devel/cakbzud2tvxojt84gb6v89o7efoaswypg25i19ycnnfpft0q...@mail.gmail.com/ IIRC all it did was get Laszlo to do the lord's work for a few months, but now he's gone :) FWIW: I've been around for ~3 years, and maintainer response times (for these "main" packages) have been *long* for those 3 years. As far as I've heard, they've been awful for a lot longer, but I can't vouch for that. I'd suppose they'll continue to be high as long as upstream EDK2 plays second or third fiddle to other firmware branches. Personally, I have multiple patches out there with significant QoL improvements that were simply ghosted, and I CBA to keep resending them (nor do I care). > > I think it would be very valuable to have a second MdeModulePkg top > level maintainer in any case, this covers areas such as DxeCore that > are some of the most central and complex parts of the code base and > bugs there need immediate resolution. > > I don't want to put him on the spot, but I would be tempted to > nominate Ard, if he wants the added responsibility, as he is very > knowledgeable in UEFI and one of the few people who actively reviews > patches closely and timely. If he does not want the additional > maintenance burden, then I would ask the stewards to help find > a community member to take on this role with Liming. > > > > > There is not much progress on PR process. We need resources to work on the > > list of action items documented here: > > > > https://github.com/orgs/tianocore/projects/5 > > Thanks for this pointer, I know the majority of active community > members report in many different forums that moving to PRs is > critical and I am confident that as a community we can make this > happen. It'd be nice (over this weird hybrid system of email + PR), but I'm really not sure if it's critical. Email-based submission *works* (even with all the Outlook awfulness some people have to go through), which is why I've been resistant to adopting the same confusing hybrid system of email patches + PR + the push tag (and then the CI flakes, or uncrustify thinks my code is slightly misformatted even though I used a slightly older uncrustify) to edk2-platforms. -- Pedro -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=- Groups.io Links: You receive all messages sent to this group. View/Reply Online (#117440): https://edk2.groups.io/g/devel/message/117440 Mute This Topic: https://groups.io/mt/105299780/21656 Group Owner: devel+ow...@edk2.groups.io Unsubscribe: https://edk2.groups.io/g/devel/unsub [arch...@mail-archive.com] -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-