Hi Sunny,

For the 3 use cases you suggested, please let me know if you think I am wrong.

1. RefreshAllBootOptions can refresh boot options which are auto created by 
BmEnumerateBootOptions as well as NV boot options in the variable store. 
Platform implementation of RefreshAllBootOptions can have calls to platform 
specific other libraries/drivers that create more boot options.
2. In EfiBootManagerRefreshAllBootOption, BmEnumerateBootOptions is the only 
function that populates boot options and then validates/invalidates them as 
well as NV boot options. RefreshAllBootOptions can modify static-informational 
data or configuration data from the boot options created by 
BmEnumerateBootOptions as well as in NV store.
3. Solution for third use case can be derived by using a PCD which can be 
defaulted to tell code to call EfiBootManagerRefreshAllBootOption every time 
but can be overridden by platform to not call it from anywhere except BDS.

Thanks
Ashish

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Thanks for checking this, Ray.

Platform may want to:
 1. Refresh the static boot options (that are not created by 
BmEnumerateBootOptions) without a reboot.
 2. Update some other static-informational data or configuration data right 
after calling EfiBootManagerRefreshAllBootOption.
 3. Always skip calling EfiBootManagerRefreshAllBootOption for the cases like 
BOOT_ASSUMING_NO_CONFIGURATION_CHANGES.

I know these actions can be done by adding code to other places, but using 
hooks in EfiBootManagerRefreshAllBootOption would be an easier solution for the 
platform. We won't need to take care of all the 
EfiBootManagerRefreshAllBootOption callers. Therefore, If we don't have a 
concern about adding more hooks and want to give the platform more flexibility, 
we could add two more hooks (1 and 3) in the future to have three hooks as 
below:
  1. BeginOfRefreshAllBootOptions
  2. RefreshAllBootOptions or RefreshEnumeratedBootOptions
  3. EndOfRefreshAllBootOption

By the way, the current change looks good enough to me. In case Ashish or 
others are in urgent need of this code change, we can discuss my comments later 
in a separated email.

Regards,
Sunny Wang

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> -----Original Message-----
> From: Wang, Sunny (HPS SW) <sunnyw...@hpe.com>
> Sent: Friday, December 20, 2019 7:29 PM
> To: devel@edk2.groups.io; ashishsin...@nvidia.com; Ni, Ray 
> <ray...@intel.com>; Wang, Jian J <jian.j.w...@intel.com>; Wu, Hao A 
> <hao.a...@intel.com>; Gao, Zhichao <zhichao....@intel.com>; Kinney, 
> Michael D <michael.d.kin...@intel.com>; 'Andrew Fish (af...@apple.com)'
> <af...@apple.com>
> Cc: Spottswood, Jason <jason.spottsw...@hpe.com>; Wang, Sunny (HPS
> SW) <sunnyw...@hpe.com>
> Subject: RE: [edk2-devel] [PATCH v4] MdeModulePkg: Add EDK2 Platform 
> Boot Manager Protocol
>
> Good point. The way you used is more robust. It can cover a mistake in 
> function's error handling. Thanks for clarifying this, Ashish.
>
> In addition, the other naming suggestion just comes to mind. How about 
> we rename the function to a more generic one (based on location) like 
> AfterEnumerateBootOptions or a more specific one like 
> RefreshEnumeratedBootOptions? In the future, we may add the other hook 
> function in the EfiBootManagerRefreshAllBootOption to deal with the 
> boot options that are not created by BmEnumerateBootOptions. In this 
> case (two hook functions in EfiBootManagerRefreshAllBootOption), the 
> original function name "RefreshAllBootOptions" may cause some confusion.

Sunny,
What else feasibility do you think platform may require in future but this 
RefreshAllBootOptions cannot support?

Thanks,
Ray


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