Sounds like a disaster.

-Jason

> On May 17, 2019, at 12:51 PM, Bryan Call <bc...@apache.org> wrote:
> 
> Having a plugin that would call into Java and then back into C sounds like a 
> really bad idea.
> 
> -Bryan
> 
> 
>> On May 17, 2019, at 8:59 AM, Walt Karas <wka...@verizonmedia.com.INVALID> 
>> wrote:
>> 
>> http://jonisalonen.com/2012/calling-c-from-java-is-easy/
>> 
>> I don't know if there is a way to call Java from C or C++, which you would
>> also need to have a Java plugin.  If no one is currently doing anything
>> like this we probably shouldn't worry about it.
>> 
>>> On Fri, May 17, 2019 at 10:54 AM Leif Hedstrom <zw...@apache.org> wrote:
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>>> On May 17, 2019, at 9:48 AM, Walt Karas <wka...@verizonmedia.com.INVALID>
>>> wrote:
>>>> 
>>>> But are there people who write plugins in other languages (like Java for
>>>> example) that can call C functions, but not C++ functions?  If so,
>>> wouldn't
>>>> this break their plugins?
>>> 
>>> 
>>> Never heard of that. How would someone do that ? You can write Java such
>>> that the C-callbacks / continuations from ATS somehow gets called into the
>>> appropriate Java API? dlopen() would need to find all these entry points in
>>> the .so.
>>> 
>>> — leif
>>> 
>>>> 
>>>>> On Fri, May 17, 2019 at 8:41 AM Leif Hedstrom <zw...@apache.org> wrote:
>>>>> 
>>>>> If we change this, such that all plugins must be compiled with C++
>>>>> compilers, we have the liberty of using C++’ism in the public
>>> interfaces,
>>>>> such as ts/ts.h and ts/remap.h. This has benefits, such as being able to
>>>>> expose internal APIs of ATS without going through complex glue
>>> interfaces
>>>>> and opaque pointers.
>>>>> 
>>>>> The disadvantage is that keeping ABI compatibility is a fair amount more
>>>>> tricky. However, I don’t feel this is a significant issue, as long as we
>>>>> don’t break it within minor / patch releases. It does make things
>>> trickier
>>>>> here too though, so we have to be open to the possibility of accidental
>>>>> breakage of ABI compatibility.
>>>>> 
>>>>> I think the advantages outweighs the disadvantages. The tasks for this
>>> is
>>>>> tracked on
>>>>> 
>>>>>      https://github.com/apache/trafficserver/issues/5360
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> Cheers,
>>>>> 
>>>>> — leif
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
> 

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