> 
> 1) You use this feature?

Yes, we do use this feature.

> 
> 2) You will support this feature, and work on the code?

sure we will support it, because we use it.


just go thorough the jira you listed below, looks not that bad, I think we can 
fix it, let us fix them first to in the ‘probation’. 


> 在 2015年4月28日,上午1:38,Leif Hedstrom <zw...@apache.org> 写道:
> 
> 
>> On Apr 27, 2015, at 12:15 AM, Yongming Zhao <ming....@gmail.com> wrote:
>> 
>> on the collation:
>> I don’t get that many critical bugs on collation: project = TS AND component 
>> = Logging AND resolution = Unresolved AND text ~ "collation"  ORDER BY due 
>> ASC, priority DESC, created ASC
>> so, what is the problem we would like to remove it completely?
> 
> 
> We closed a few of them as Won’t Fix. But the issues that were crippling were
> 
>       - There is no way to replay an orphaned log
> 
> and together with
> 
>       https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/TS-2629
>       https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/TS-2062
>       https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/TS-2101
>       https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/TS-2781
>       https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/TS-910
> 
> 
> this becomes completely crippling (it filled up our disks).
> 
> 
>       
>> 
>> the current ATS logging a ugly but very good in performance thinking log 
>> system, the SAC is a dedicated commercial server to offer log collation 
>> service, due to that we are now open sourced, that is a good idea removing 
>> the duplicated SAC codes.  In our using with syslog-ng, it’s performance may 
>> affect very busy ATS systems, that is why Yunkai pushed many collation 
>> improvements.
> 
> No one has said anything about the logging infrastructure itself. In fact, I 
> do not think it’s ugly, I think it’s very good. This has nothing to do with 
> that, logging will work as it does.
> 
>> 
>> yes, logging has some ugly bugs, but collation should not that bad after 
>> Yunkai’s work, and it does not bother you if you just logging to local disk 
>> and collection with the other systems, right?
> 
> 
> Yes, it did bother us, because the misbehavior around orphaned logs are 
> crippling.
> 
>> 
>> please consider keep this feature, I am very happy that a simple collation 
>> works for me out of box.
>> 
>> sure you may find someone will take interest in supporting it, only if it is 
>> still there.
> 
> 
> So, I take it that 
> 
> 1) You use this feature?
> 
> 2) You will support this feature, and work on the code?
> 
> 
> 
> I could probably be convinced to give this feature another year “probation”, 
> but only under the conditions that you answered “yes” to both questions 
> above. If so, I’ll file a Jira on the biggest issue, that orphaned logs are 
> abandoned with no way to get inserted again.
> 
> 
> Anyone else have any thoughts on this?
> 
> 
> — Leif
> 

- Yongming Zhao 赵永明

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