I'm pretty sure we use log collation here.  Also, we tend to not have any
issues with it.

On Mon, Apr 27, 2015 at 1:38 PM, Leif Hedstrom <zw...@apache.org> wrote:

>
> > On Apr 27, 2015, at 12:15 AM, Yongming Zhao <ming....@gmail.com> wrote:
> >
> > on the collation:
> >  I don’t get that many critical bugs on collation: project = TS AND
> component = Logging AND resolution = Unresolved AND text ~ "collation"
> ORDER BY due ASC, priority DESC, created ASC
> > so, what is the problem we would like to remove it completely?
>
>
> We closed a few of them as Won’t Fix. But the issues that were crippling
> were
>
>         - There is no way to replay an orphaned log
>
> and together with
>
>         https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/TS-2629
>         https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/TS-2062
>         https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/TS-2101
>         https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/TS-2781
>         https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/TS-910
>
>
> this becomes completely crippling (it filled up our disks).
>
>
>
> >
> >  the current ATS logging a ugly but very good in performance thinking
> log system, the SAC is a dedicated commercial server to offer log collation
> service, due to that we are now open sourced, that is a good idea removing
> the duplicated SAC codes.  In our using with syslog-ng, it’s performance
> may affect very busy ATS systems, that is why Yunkai pushed many collation
> improvements.
>
> No one has said anything about the logging infrastructure itself. In fact,
> I do not think it’s ugly, I think it’s very good. This has nothing to do
> with that, logging will work as it does.
>
> >
> >  yes, logging has some ugly bugs, but collation should not that bad
> after Yunkai’s work, and it does not bother you if you just logging to
> local disk and collection with the other systems, right?
>
>
> Yes, it did bother us, because the misbehavior around orphaned logs are
> crippling.
>
> >
> >  please consider keep this feature, I am very happy that a simple
> collation works for me out of box.
> >
> >  sure you may find someone will take interest in supporting it, only if
> it is still there.
>
>
> So, I take it that
>
> 1) You use this feature?
>
> 2) You will support this feature, and work on the code?
>
>
>
> I could probably be convinced to give this feature another year
> “probation”, but only under the conditions that you answered “yes” to both
> questions above. If so, I’ll file a Jira on the biggest issue, that
> orphaned logs are abandoned with no way to get inserted again.
>
>
> Anyone else have any thoughts on this?
>
>
> — Leif
>
>


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