On Jul 15, 2013, at 7:09 PM, Phil Sorber <sor...@apache.org> wrote:

> On Mon, Jul 15, 2013 at 4:49 PM, Leif Hedstrom <zw...@apache.org> wrote:
> Hi all,
> 
> so one of the outcomes from the latest BarCamp, is that there might be a 
> place for one, or even two, official ATS Summits. The ideas floating was 
> something like:
> 
> Release Summit
> --------------
> 
>  * To be held in the June / July timeframe.
>  * Ideally connected (before or after) one of the larger conferences in
>    this timeframe (e.g. Velocity CA or OSCon).
>  * Focus on releasing next stable release
>  * Focus on planning for upcoming stable features
>  * 3-day event (1 for release, 1 for planning, 1 for "talks" and 
> presentations)
> 
> 
> Mid-term Summit
> ----------------
> 
>  * To be held in the December - January timeframe.
>  * Possibly connected to an ApacheCon (time permitting?)
>  * Focus on how to get to the next stable release. Realign as necessary.
>  * Focus on bug triaging and bug squashing.
>  * 2-day event (1-1.5 for realigning / triaging, 0.5 - 1 for talks,
>    presentations)
> 
> 
> This would require a little more planning and effort to put together than the 
> BarCamp's, but I personally think it's time well spent. We would of course 
> still participate in other BarCamp events, and also organize our own 
> BarCamp's as people feel. Hacking is never a bad thing.
> 
> We would work with the ASF Event planning org to put a more official stamp on 
> this. We'd also try to get some more corporate sponsors for locations, food 
> and possibly a T-shirt or some other schwag. This also depends on how much 
> time and effort the PMC feel it can spend on organizing this.
> 
> One concern is that this could sound too developer centric. I really do 
> believe that users and anyone interested in the development and status of ATS 
> can enjoy such events. Particularly as we move ahead on usability 
> improvements, plugins, documentations, management interfaces etc.
> 
> Thoughts? Good? Bad? No way! ? :)
> 
> -- Leif
> 
> 
> I am generally +1 on this idea. I think the devil is in the details, but it 
> would be nice to at least give it a shot. I felt like the BarCamp/Summit in 
> Denver was very productive, but I may be biased.

Yes, I'm also +1 on future Summits. More feedback and participation from users 
would be really helpful too.

> 
> The one thing I would like to see more of is actual hacking. Maybe find one 
> big bug or a new feature, and sit around and hack it out. Maybe break up into 
> small groups of 3 or 4 people. I'm not sure if this approach would work, but 
> more coding is something that I would like to see happen at these events, 
> even if it's only a day or less.

I've never found these sort of events especially useful for getting work done, 
though I'm happy to try. I'm also happy to try remote pair programming or 
hacking sessions if anyone wants to rendezvous over G+, Skype or IRC.

J

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