Jimmie Houchin wrote: > I have been for the last several weeks (months) researching what language I > want to use to implement a couple of apps I want to do.
What kind of apps are you planning to write? > So I have this internal debate in me as to whether or not to learn C and/or > C++. One one hand I tend towards C. But for someone who has spent the last 20 > years using learning Python and Smalltalk. C looks pretty primitive. C++ looks > complicated. And C++ OOP does not look a thing like Smalltalk OOP. See the „primitivity“ of C as a benefit. In the beginning you may have to think a little harder to fit something into these „limitations“ but in the end it pays off, since you don't have to struggle with much OOP complexity when maintaining your code. > The sticky wicket in their for me is that I must connect to either C++ or Java > libraries. One of my apps has a C wrapper around the C++ library. So any > language that can connect to C can use this library. But many of the required > libraries I need to use are in C++. Any C++ library that pretends to be sane also has C bindings. > And neither natively provide the interactiveness of Python/Smalltalk. Which > is something I require. So I would need then to add either Python or probably > Lua into the equation. You could also try Go (http://golang.org/), which has syntax similar to C/C++/Java, compiles to binaries, feels like python and allows for a very interestingly restricted way of OOP. > The reason I write, is that in my research for pros and cons of C verses C++. > Almost all of the anti-C++ writings are pre 2011 and therefore pre C++11/C++14 > and the coming C++17. Did you check if the authors of the anti-C++ postings changed their opinion in 2011? They probably did not and their critic is still valid. > And Hi! First time poster to suckless. Thanks for having a group which fights > against the current direction in complexity in software. Welcome to sl, Jimmie. --Markus
