On Wed, Jul 22, 2009 at 7:23 PM, Donald Chai<donald.c...@gmail.com> wrote: > On Jul 22, 2009, at 2:22 PM, Donald Allen wrote: > >> On Wed, Jul 22, 2009 at 3:25 PM, Michael<mi...@netspark.org> wrote: >>> >>> Donald Allen wrote: >>>> >>>> I realize that these bindings can be changed. But that requires some >>>> work (and knowledge of C) on the part of the user. I'm talking about >>>> the choice of the defaults. Perhaps the keys modified by alt should >>>> instead be modified by ctrl-alt by default? And similarly, alt-shift >>>> -> ctrl-alt-shift? I am going to test this idea by modifying my setup. >>>> I'll let you know how it works out. >>> >>> ctrl-alt, alt-shift, ctrl-shift non-english speaking people usually use >>> those keys for layout change, win-key is perfect solution, but not all >>> keyboards have those. >>> there is no default keys to satisfy even majority, i think, so why >>> bother, if majority will have to edit those keys anyway. >> >> I don't buy that argument. Why not pick the set of defaults that >> satisfies the largest minority? > > It *is* the set of defaults that satisfies the majority.
You are responding to something I didn't say. Read again. I think many > people change the setting to Mod2Mask to use the Windows key, but the > current default of Mod1Mask will work out of the box for anyone who doesn't > have a Windows/Apple/diamond key. That's true. But it also conflicts with a widely-available UI convention, alt-based keyboard accelerators. And there are other possible defaults that use only ctrl and alt that don't exhibit this conflict. > > If the only modifier keys on your keyboard are CTRL and ALT, I suggest > mapping one ALT key to Mod1 and the other to Mod2. I've noticed that I > rarely use the modifier keys on the right-hand side anyway... Good idea. > >
