Thanks Sean. You've again been very helpful to put the right tone to the matters. I stand corrected and have no interest in GSoC anymore.
Pozdrawiam, Jacek Laskowski ---- https://medium.com/@jaceklaskowski/ Mastering Apache Spark 2.0 https://bit.ly/mastering-apache-spark Follow me at https://twitter.com/jaceklaskowski On Fri, Feb 3, 2017 at 11:38 PM, Sean Owen <so...@cloudera.com> wrote: > I have a contrarian opinion on GSoC from experience many years ago in > Mahout. Of 3 students I interacted with, 2 didn't come close to completing > the work they signed up for. I think it's mostly that students are hungry > for the resumé line item, and don't understand the amount of work they're > proposing, and ultimately have little incentive to complete their proposal. > The stipend is small. > > I can appreciate the goal of GSoC but it makes more sense for projects that > don't get as much attention, and Spark gets plenty. I would not expect > students to be able to be net contributors to a project like Spark. The time > they consume in hand-holding will exceed the time it would take for someone > experienced to just do the work. I would caution anyone from agreeing to > this for Spark unless they are willing to devote 5-10 hours per week for the > summer to helping someone learn. > > My net experience with GSoC is negative, mostly on account of the > participants. > > On Fri, Feb 3, 2017 at 9:56 PM Holden Karau <hol...@pigscanfly.ca> wrote: >> >> As someone who did GSoC back in University I think this could be a good >> idea if there is enough interest from the PMC & I'd be willing the help >> mentor if that is a bottleneck. >> >> On Fri, Feb 3, 2017 at 12:42 PM, Jacek Laskowski <ja...@japila.pl> wrote: >>> >>> Hi, >>> >>> Is this something Spark considering? Would be nice to mark issues as >>> GSoC in JIRA and solicit feedback. 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