Hi, Jiuming,

Overall looks good to me. Left some comments for the Compatibility section:

> In the next release after 2.11.1, if users want to create Durable 
> subscriptions on NonPersistentTopic, will throw an exception.

I think this is an improvement but not a bug fix. Right?
The next feature release is 3.0.0. I think we should print warn logs
in 3.0.0 and throw exceptions may be in 3.1.0. Otherwise, it will
bring the breaking change here in 3.0.0.
The 2.11.1 is a patch release. I don't recommend cherry-picking this
PIP to branch-2.11 because it's not a critical bug fix.

BR,
Zike Yang


Zike Yang

On Fri, Feb 17, 2023 at 12:52 AM Baodi Shi <ba...@apache.org> wrote:
>
>  +1 (non-binding)
>
> Thanks,
> Baodi Shi
>
>
> 在 2023年2月16日 21:44:17 上,Asaf Mesika <asaf.mes...@gmail.com> 写道:
>
> > +1 (non-binding)
> >
> >
> > On Thu, Feb 16, 2023 at 11:11 AM Jiuming Tao <jm...@streamnative.io.invalid
> > >
> > wrote:
> >
> >
> > I’ve added the `Compatibility` selection into the PIP, please help review
> >
> > and vote the PIP
> >
> >
> > Thanks,
> >
> > Tao Jiuming
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > > 2023年2月15日 14:58,Zike Yang <z...@apache.org> 写道:
> >
> > >
> >
> > > Hi, Jiuming
> >
> > >
> >
> > >> bump
> >
> > >
> >
> > > As for the discussion here[0], could you add a `Compatibility` section
> >
> > > to talk about compatibility in more detail? WDYT?
> >
> > > Then we could start the vote again.
> >
> > >
> >
> > > [0] https://lists.apache.org/thread/2bjg39zh7z38bzbnqngbo5l4jzkjttrq
> >
> > >
> >
> > > Thanks,
> >
> > > Zike Yang
> >
> > >
> >
> > > On Wed, Feb 15, 2023 at 1:34 PM Tao Jiuming <dao...@apache.org> wrote:
> >
> > >>
> >
> > >>
> >
> > >> bump
> >
> > >>
> >
> > >> On 2023/02/13 06:56:09 Jiuming Tao wrote:
> >
> > >>> Hi all,
> >
> > >>>
> >
> > >>> I would like to start a VOTE on `PIP-245: Make subscriptions of
> >
> > non-persistent topic non-durable`.
> >
> > >>>
> >
> > >>> Motivation:
> >
> > >>>
> >
> > >>> There are two types of subscriptions for a topic: Durable and
> >
> > Non-durable.
> >
> > >>>
> >
> > >>> We create a Consumer with a Durable subscription and a Reader with a
> >
> > Non-durable subscription.
> >
> > >>>
> >
> > >>> But for NonPersistentTopic, creating a Durable subscription is
> >
> > meaningless, NonPersistentSubscription doesn't have a ManagedCursor to
> >
> > persistent its data. After its consumer disconnected, the subscription
> >
> > couldn't be removed automatically if we didn't set the value of
> >
> > subscriptionExpirationTimeMinutes greater than 0.
> >
> > >>>
> >
> > >>> For subscriptionExpirationTimeMinutes, it controls the subscription
> >
> > expiration of NonPersistentTopic and PersistentTopic, if we set the value
> >
> > of subscriptionExpirationTimeMinutes greater than 0, it may lead to data
> >
> > loss(The durable subscriptions of PersistentTopic also can be removed).
> >
> > >>>
> >
> > >>> And the Non-durable subscriptions will be removed automatically after
> >
> > all the consumers disconnected, it's the existing logic.
> >
> > >>>
> >
> > >>> For the purpose of removing the subscriptions which have no active
> >
> > consumers of NonPersistentTopic and the above reasons, we can make all the
> >
> > subscriptions of a NonPersistentTopic Non-durable.
> >
> > >>>
> >
> > >>>
> >
> > >>>
> >
> > >>> For more details, you can read:
> >
> > https://github.com/apache/pulsar/issues/19448 <
> >
> > https://github.com/apache/pulsar/issues/19448>
> >
> > >>>
> >
> > >>> And the discuss thread is available at:
> >
> > https://lists.apache.org/thread/2ltmyglnb25jy8nk58twkwbglws43bst <
> >
> > https://lists.apache.org/thread/2ltmyglnb25jy8nk58twkwbglws43bst>
> >
> > >>>
> >
> > >>> Thanks,
> >
> > >>> Tao Jiuming
> >
> >
> >
> >

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