Hi Bo,

For a single-topic consumer, the MessageId implementations returned by
receive() should be a MessageIdImpl or BatchedMessageIdImpl. Is there
any reason to add a `getTopicName()` method for them (via extending
TopicMessageId)? If yes, we have to use the default implementation of
`getTopicName()` that returns null without modifying any existing
code. If you don't want to return a null value, you have to add new
logic that sets the topic explicitly when creating the received
message.

Thanks,
Yunze

On Sun, Dec 18, 2022 at 3:44 PM 丛搏 <bog...@apache.org> wrote:
>
> < For a single-topic consumer, wrapping the topic name is
> < redundant and might break the existing behavior. In this case, if
> < `PulsarApiMessageId` extends `TopicMessageId`, the `getTopicName()`
> < method should return null, which is not a good design [1][2].
>
> For `TopicMessageIdImpl`, it is an original method. for
> `PulsarApiMessageId` if extend `TopicMessageId` it is a new method for
> any `MessageId` extend `PulsarApiMessageId`, why do we have to return
> null? I think it just reduces the transmission of useless fields at
> the network layer and not added to MessageIdData. LedgerId and EntryId
> are in PulsarApiMessageId, why shouldn't `topicName` be added in?
>
> Thanks,
> Bo
>
> Yunze Xu <y...@streamnative.io.invalid> 于2022年12月18日周日 14:23写道:
> >
> > Hi Bo,
> >
> > Because the topic name is not a part of MessageIdData. It's only used
> > to find the correct internal consumer of a multi-topics consumer.
> >
> > > All I can think of is PulsarApiMessageId extend 
> > > TopicMessageId(PIP-224[1]) right?
> >
> > No. The `TopicMessageId` could only be used in a multi-topics
> > consumer. For a single-topic consumer, wrapping the topic name is
> > redundant and might break the existing behavior. In this case, if
> > `PulsarApiMessageId` extends `TopicMessageId`, the `getTopicName()`
> > method should return null, which is not a good design [1][2].
> >
> > After both PIP-224 and PIP-229 are approved, the `TopicMessageIdImpl`
> > will implement both `PulsarApiMessageId` and `TopicMessageId`
> > interfaces. Other `MessageId` implementations only need to implement
> > `PulsarApiMessageId`.
> >
> > BTW, PIP-224 mainly solves two problems:
> > 1. When a multi-topics consumer acknowledges a `MessageId` that is not
> > a `TopicMessageId`, a `PulsarClientException.NotAllowedException` will
> > be thrown in synchronous methods. The asynchronous methods should not
> > throw an exception.
> > 2. For a multi-topics consumer, support seeking with a `TopicMessageId`.
> >
> > PIP-224 is designed for application users to specify an associated
> > topic name when using a `MessageId` in `seek` or `acknowledge` on a
> > multi-topics consumer. PIP-229 is more like a refactoring to allow the
> > experienced developers access the fields of `MessageIdData` via a
> > standard interface.
> >
> > [1] https://github.com/apache/pulsar/issues/18616#issuecomment-1328609346
> > [2] https://lists.apache.org/thread/g8o0qtljllxnvck69dn36205xg5xr8cc
> >
> > Thanks,
> > Yunze
> >
> >
> > On Fri, Dec 16, 2022 at 8:50 PM 丛搏 <bog...@apache.org> wrote:
> > >
> > > Abstraction based on MessageIdData is a good solution. I don't have
> > > any discussion context. Why don't we put the topic name in it?
> > >
> > > All I can think of is PulsarApiMessageId extend
> > > TopicMessageId(PIP-224[1]) right?
> > >
> > > Thanks,
> > > Bo
> > > [1] https://github.com/apache/pulsar/issues/18616
> > >
> > > Yunze Xu <y...@streamnative.io.invalid> 于2022年12月16日周五 15:59写道:
> > > >
> > > > Hi all,
> > > >
> > > > I've opened a PIP to discuss: 
> > > > https://github.com/apache/pulsar/issues/18950
> > > >
> > > > Currently the `MessageId` interface is not friendly to developers of
> > > > Pulsar core and ecosystems. There is no abstraction of the
> > > > `MessageIdData` defined in `PulsarApi.proto`.
> > > >
> > > > This proposal aims at solving this problem and allows more loose type
> > > > assertions when using `seek` and `acknowledge`.
> > > >
> > > > You can also see the demo for reference:
> > > > https://github.com/BewareMyPower/pulsar/pull/11
> > > >
> > > > (Sorry I forgot to add the [DISCUSS] prefix again in the previous
> > > > email, let's continue the discussion here)
> > > >
> > > > Thanks,
> > > > Yunze

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