On Tue., 31 Aug. 2021, 09:44 Hao Wang, <hao...@live.com> wrote: > Thanks for introducing me to the new term Ribbon. Looks like that's what > I'm aiming for. > In addition to the UI redesign, is it possible for us to develop a > web-page based office suite similar to Google docs or Office 365 ? >
One of the reasons I stick to OpenOffice are CUA menus. Menus are not hidden based on "context" or where the cursor is within the document. Please, stick to CUA menus. If it becomes yet another "ribbon UI" madness it will be tone for me to either look for something else or keep using old versions. There are plenty of UX pundits that question the usefulness of "ribbon" like user interfaces. Why the Ribbon is wrong https://worldcadaccess.typepad.com/blog/2008/05/why-the-ribbon-is-wrong.html "*For a user interface to be effective, it has to be consistent. Consistant is not what the ribbon is about. It suffers from large buttons, small buttons. Buttons labelled with words, buttons labeled with icons. Sometimes what appears to be a button is only a text label; clicking it does nothing." * Microsoft Office Ribbon sucks – Julie Larson-Green should design prison complexes instead of software UI https://moralvolcano.wordpress.com/2015/07/26/microsoft-office-ribbon-sucks-julie-larson-green-should-design-prison-complexes-instead-of-software-ui/ The Ribbon Sucks http://blog.schauderhaft.de/2009/01/08/the-ribbon-sucks/ https://forums.theregister.com/forum/all/2018/09/05/outlook_updates_microsoft_ribbon/ *Microsoft's incoming updates to Outlook on Windows and web aim to strip away the cruft that has built up in the interface over the years. Outlook for Windows The veteran email client has seen its interface become gradually ever more cluttered, with the divisive ribbon inflicted on the toolbar just over 10 years ago"* The ribbon interface, however, does in fact suck. I’m used to it, I can use it, but it is fundamentally more annoying and slower to use than the old drop-down-menus-plus-toolbars interface for a number of reasons. One of them is that it only lets you do one kind of thing at a time, so you have to switch back and forth all the time. So for instance, say I want to mess with tables, or I’m in a spreadsheet and I want to do some sorting. But, I’m going to want to do some basic formatting with this stuff as well. With old interfaces or the Open/LibreOffice interface, I can use my table stuff or sorting stuff dropdown menu, or in the case of OpenOffice I’ve maybe got a little floating toolbar for it. But my normal stuff toolbar is still showing, so I can fiddle with it and then format it (set whether it’s showing as dollars or euros, how many decimal points, center a heading, whatever) and then fiddle with it some more. With the ribbon, every time I do a different thing I have to switch back and forth, because with the ribbon it’s basically like wiping out your toolbar and replacing it with a different one every time you do something different. Another problem is that for a lot of things to do with processing words, I actually prefer thinking in terms of words to thinking in terms of fairly arbitrary little pictures–go figure. So making it necessary to pick my actions from a large spread of icons, even with a mouse-over so that if I hover over each icon I will eventually probably figure out what I need, does not make me enthused–I’d rather have the option of a relatively short list of words in a dropdown menu, even if it means that menu might have to nest an extra level. The ribbon in lots of ways really is a step down in interface design" https://www.shamusyoung.com/twentysidedtale/?p=11809 So, please, "just because everyone else is doing it" is not a valid technical reason. Lots of atrocities were done in the name of progress. Many times it was just a fad. FC
