Hello,

> -----Original Message-----
> From: Simon Phipps [mailto:si...@webmink.com] 
> Sent: Wednesday, August 18, 2021 10:03 PM
> To: dev
> Subject: Re: A free project does not need distorting propaganda
> 
> Hi!
> 
> On Wed, Aug 18, 2021 at 8:46 PM Jörg Schmidt 
> <joe...@j-m-schmidt.de> wrote:
> 
> > Hello,
> >
> > to my dismay I read, from a PMC member, on 
> users...@openoffice.apache.org
> > that they are trying to mix up our free OpenOffice with the former
> > proprietary StarWriter. Obviously purely for the sake of 
> show and obviously
> > also in ignorance of the facts.
> >
> > As someone who has been volunteering in the OO project (OOo 
> and AOO) for
> > 15 years, I want to make my opinion clear:
> > We have such propaganda not necessary, but us by honest 
> work on a free
> > software, since OOo 1.0.0, is completely sufficient.
> > Personally I would like to make clear that such a kind of 
> profiling by
> > propaganda, will not be supported by me, neither now nor in 
> the future.
> >
> >
> > I hereby ask to remove the distorting statement from the page
> > https://live.froscon.de/partner/openoffice again.
> >
> 
> Can you be more detailed what problem you see please? 

The free project OOo was launched, formally, on 13.10.2000. Since then, 
OpenOffice has existed for about 20 years (not 30).

StarOffice, on the other hand, has been a proprietary project, which we should 
by no means mix with OpenOffice.
Any claim that a continuous code base down to StarWriter for DOS could exist is 
technically and factually absurd, because there is no technical continuation of 
the DOS code base of Starwriter and also the code base at the transition from 
StarOffice 5.x to StarOffice 6.0/OOo 1.0.0 was renewed by SUN Microsystems so 
seriously that factually there is no continuity of e.g. API or file format.

> I 
> visited the page
> and I can't see an obvious error of a nature to cause such dismay.

I personally accompanied the complete development from OOo 1.0.0 to AOO 4.1.10 
as a volunteer and was professionally involved in many important migration 
projects in Germany.
I had to experience which caesura the separation from LO represented and which 
damage OO and LO in sum by the partly untrue propaganda on the part of the TDF, 
in addition to the weakening by the fork itself, resulted.

AOO can shine with its own performance and is not dependent on cheap, 
propagandistic exaggeration.

Who really believes that statements that are doubtful could benefit us is 
mistaken and I think it is important to contradict such developments, as long 
as they are still correctable. Personally, I would like to point out again that 
I will not remain silent about such things, also because my loyalty as a 
committer of the ASF is not to support half-truths.

My request to correct the page in question may not please everyone, but it is a 
moderate request.



greetings,
Jörg


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