Hi Dave,

Am 17.09.20 um 21:15 schrieb Dave Fisher:
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> Sent from my iPhone
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>> On Sep 17, 2020, at 11:20 AM, Marcus <marcus.m...@wtnet.de> wrote:
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>> Am 17.09.20 um 15:00 schrieb Jim Jagielski:
>>> Here is my thought.
>>> AOO exists to serve a large segment of the "I need office software" 
>>> community which is, IMO at least, dis-served. Not everyone can afford the 
>>> latest and greatest PC, with the latest version of the OS, and lots of RAM 
>>> and disk. This is especially true in developing countries. If you have 
>>> recent hardware and software, you have lots of options. If you don't, you 
>>> are screwed.
>> right, an argument that oft got forgotten.
> I wasn’t forgetting this argument. If we keep 4.1.x around then that line can 
> continue to be an option.
>
>>> So with that in mind, baselining a "old" version of macOS (Oops... OS X ;) 
>>> ) makes sense.
>>> Now, of course, you can build and run AOO on recent/current versions of 
>>> macOS and hardware. We want to ensure that those stuck on older versions 
>>> can also do that and, especially, ensure that our community builds support 
>>> them.
>> Sounds good and helpful.
>>
>> I'm +1 for keeping the baseline for every OS as long as (technically) 
>> possible on a low level.
> My fear is that we end up in a situation where only one community member has 
> the ability to build and for whatever reason they disappear.
>
> This is not an idle concern. It has happened twice with macOS.

That also happened with Windows...

Regards,

   Matthias

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> Regards,
> Dave
>
>> Marcus
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>>
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>>>>> On Sep 15, 2020, at 6:59 PM, Dave Fisher <w...@apache.org> wrote:
>>>> The 4.1,X line of releases should remain focused on MacOSX Lion 10.7.
>>>>
>>>> Which version should we target for 4.2.0 and trunk?
>>>>
>>>> Some facts:
>>>> (1) The minimum version of MacOSX you can get easily is Yosemite 10.10.
>>>> This runs on these machines. [1] The era is 2007-2009.
>>>>
>>>> (2) Catalina 10.15 is Apple's preferred version
>>>> It runs on these machines. [2] The era is roughly 2012-2013.
>>>>
>>>> (3) Building for Lion 10.7 requires special configuration of Xcode which 
>>>> makes it hard to reproduce our community builds.
>>>>
>>>> No hurry to have this discussion. I just wanted to gauge developers 
>>>> thoughts before I make another attempt to build.
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