> -----Original Message----- > From: Dave Fisher [mailto:w...@apache.org] > Sent: Wednesday, July 01, 2020 5:13 PM > To: dev > Cc: dev...@openoffice.apache.org > Subject: Re: New Committer: Detlef Nannen > > > > > On Jul 1, 2020, at 7:58 AM, Jörg Schmidt > <joe...@j-m-schmidt.de> wrote: > > > >> -----Original Message----- > >> From: Dr. Michael Stehmann > [mailto:anw...@rechtsanwalt-stehmann.de] > >> Sent: Wednesday, July 01, 2020 4:18 PM > >> To: dev@openoffice.apache.org > >> Subject: Re: New Committer: Detlef Nannen > >> > >> > >> > >> Am 01.07.20 um 16:08 schrieb Dr. Michael Stehmann: > >> > >>> Is this your opinion or the opinion of Detlef? > >> > >> This was a mistake: The right question is: > >> > >> Is this your opinion or the opinion of Jan-Christian? > > > > STOP! > > I'm only speaking specifically in person here. Try not to > doubt that! > > > > (In fact, I haven't had the chance to talk to Jan at all, > because I've only known about the development for a few hours) > > > >> Or are there more people involved in producing the flyers? > > > > Isn't it enough to treat one unjustly? > > Why is our announcing new Committers a problem of justice?
Because others who have done the SAME job are denied being committers because they are not even asked. > It > should be celebrated. You should stop these accusations. I'm sorry, but I will not stand by silently and watch our project become a gentlemen's club, where everyone is sworn to an opinion and whoever dares to express his own opinion is treated as an Troublemaker. Why do I say that? Because it is not enough for me to do only simple work here and to have to keep silent about important things. Of course I am here to make AOO better, but I am also here to help shape FOSS policy. Is that presumptuous? Well, I've been volunteering for OpenOffice (first OOo now AOO) for 15 years, if that doesn't count what then? Unfortunately, I had to learn what counts, e.g. accepting employees of IBM into the PMC and pretending that it is personal achievement (in the sense of voluntary work) to do what you are paid for professionally. Well, maybe that was helpful, but is it fair to give one person something with a light hand that you withhold from the other just because you don't like her opinion in some things? > If > there are people that you feel the PMC has missed then please > send an email to private@openoffice and let the PMC know. No, thank you. I'm not gonna pretend that everything is okay here when in truth it's not. I have had little confidence in the PMC(*) since I experienced the reaction of the PMC to a critical request (on private@openoffice) from me. (*) Let me be more specific: I have little trust in those who are currently have a decisive influence on its activities, because there are also members of the PMC whose performance I regard with great respect and many members whom I have never got to know concretely. > Many of us are NOT on the dev-de@openoffice mailing list and > don’t spend any time there. If there have been personal > attacks on the -de lists then please let the PMC know at > private@openoffice so that it can be looked into. Personal > attacks are not OK. I had a dispute with a PMC member on the mailing list. Do you really think it is helpful to complain to the PMC about being verbally attacked by a PMC member? greetings, Jörg --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@openoffice.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@openoffice.apache.org
