A model of 100% volunteer based software project is futile.
Only a combination of payed workers and volunteers is viable.


On Wed, Jan 11, 2017 at 11:49 PM, Peter Kovacs <legi...@gmail.com> wrote:

> On 11.01.2017 11:00, Dr. Michael Stehmann wrote:
>
>> Am 11.01.2017 um 09:44 schrieb Patricia Shanahan:
>>
>> For most of my career, the only way I had of earning a living was
>>> writing software. The FSF's basic philosophy is that programmers should
>>> have no right to own and control the products of their labor. That does
>>> not seem very free to me. For that reason, I'll never donate my labor to
>>> anything that uses their licenses.
>>>
>> The difference between the Apache Licence and the licences, which are
>> promoted by the FSF, is the so called "Copyleft". The Apache licence has
>> no copyleft.
>>
>> But copyleft gives the programmer more and not less control, because
>> nobody can make a proprietary (non free) product of the code without the
>> permission of the copyright holder (programmer).
>>
> I do not think copyleft gives you more control. You omit your copy rights
> in favour of copy left.
> Multi Licens policies are only possible if your developer team agrees on
> this model right from the start.
> If you try to build one afterwards, I would expect at least difficulties,
> or even risks if your documentation on contributors is to sloppy.
>
>> That is why some supporters of copyleftless licence say, that these
>> licences are more free than licence containing a copyleft.
>>
>> That is a question, whether you are the user or the creator of the code.
>>
>> For an enduser of the code copyleft brings potentially more freedom.
>>
> Endusers do not care about license policy in general. See the closed
> source drivers in the Kernel. There was somewhat pressure to resolve it,
> but a lot of pressure not to sentence it.
> Also you can see in our Community that the Apache License is not a major
> topic to them. Functionality is the major point. I think it is even less
> important for users which license a software has then data security.
>
>> If you are a developer, using code under a copyleftless licence is much
>> easier. But if you are the programmer of the used code, you have more
>> control, what people do with your product.
>>
> I think the license model is much tied to your business modell. If you are
> able to build services around code, the protection of the copy left, makes
> you more secure on the market. Since no one can break out.
> If your model works directly with the Product, the flexibility of the
> Permissive license can be the stronger choice.
> I do not believe that a lot of people understand this. There is this Idea
> floating around copy left == communism, which I think is not true. It
> depends on the organisation of the community.
>
>> Kind regards
>> Michael
>>
> Thanks michael for your explanations. Was really interesting, even if I
> have another point of view :-D
>
> All the best
> Peter
>
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