Thanks for these reminders. I was watching odftoolkit a few years ago. 

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> On Jan 13, 2017, at 23:05, Dave Fisher <dave2w...@comcast.net> wrote:
> 
> Hi -
> 
> If support for Microsoft Office formats is desired and Java is not a problem 
> then Apache has a 15 year old project called Apache POI. Also, Apache 
> ODFToolkit is sitting in the Incubator for 5.5 years now with one developer - 
> Svante.
> 
> Conversion between ODF and OOXML is the only way to ultimate document 
> freedom. Institutions cannot change - documents need to be write once and use 
> anywhere. 
> 
> There is a way if there is a will.
> 
> Regards,
> Dave
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
> 
>> On Jan 13, 2017, at 4:56 PM, Peter Kovacs <legi...@gmail.com> wrote:
>> 
>> +1 :-D
>> 
>> I will pick maybe some of the stuff up.
>> 
>> 
>>> On 13.01.2017 21:38, Chuck Davis wrote:
>>> Toki, I'm very glad to hear SOMEBODY has imagination!  :)
>>> 
>>> It seems we've had quite a number of people coming here lately (like a
>>> professor someplace is sending them to get involved in open source) to
>>> state they want to get involved.  I hope they and their professors are
>>> taking notes from your material!  You have some very good ideas.
>>> 
>>> Thanks for being specific.
>>> 
>>>>> On Fri, Jan 13, 2017 at 12:08 PM, toki <toki.kant...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>> 
>>>>> On 01/13/2017 03:15 PM, Chuck Davis wrote:
>>>>> 
>>>>> but I fail to see it in my use cases.
>>>> As far as word processing is concerned, one can make a case that since
>>>> either WordStar 3.3 or WordPerfect 5.1, the proffered functionality is
>>>> overkill for more than 90% of the user base.
>>>> 
>>>> As far as spreadsheets go, a case can be made that for anything that
>>>> requires more sophistication than than Lotus 1 2 3 version 4.0, it would
>>>> be more appropriate to use R & SQLite.
>>>> 
>>>>> and start rolling out really useful features
>>>> For Write, as a starting point, incorporate the features, functionality,
>>>> and capabilities, of both WordStar 3.3 & WordPerfect 5.1, that are not
>>>> currently present in AOo.
>>>> 
>>>> For Base:
>>>> Step One: Include SQLite;
>>>> Step Two: Provide a UI that non-database specialists understand well
>>>> enough, to be able to intuitively create forms and do searches;
>>>> Step Three: Purpose-specific addons. Templates which include Forms,
>>>> macros, etc, that makes such obvious and easy for all to utilize. By way
>>>> of example:
>>>> * Project Management;
>>>> * Genealogy Records;
>>>> * Cookbook, including nutritional data;
>>>> * Contact Management;
>>>> 
>>>> For Calc:
>>>> Step One: Include R as part of the core install;
>>>> Step Two: Purpose-specific addons. Templates which include macros, etc,
>>>> that makes utilization obvious and easy for all. By way of example:
>>>> * Financial Spread Betting;
>>>> * Investment Analysis;
>>>> * Earthquake Prediction;
>>>> 
>>>> ###
>>>> 
>>>> Something that sort of surprises me, is that AOo hasn't worked with SVN,
>>>> to have "Save to SVN" as a standard feature. (The extension that
>>>> provided this functionality is completely broken for LibO, and appears
>>>> to be broken for AOo 4.1.3.)
>>>> 
>>>> "Save to SVN" might look arcane, and not useful to anybody. As a
>>>> practical matter, it offers much better change control, and greater roll
>>>> back functionality, than anything currently offered for any office suite
>>>> --- if it does everything in the background, with minimal
>>>> user-configuration and no end-user integration required.
>>>> 
>>>> ###
>>>> 
>>>> Project Management is the most visible hole in FLOSS office suites. In
>>>> theory, a set of extensions and templates could provide this functionality.
>>>> 
>>>> A second hole is the ability to wrap spreadsheets, documents, images,
>>>> etc into a single package. IOW, the functionality offered by Microsoft
>>>> Office Binder.
>>>> 
>>>>> I don't have enough imagination to know what those might be.
>>>> For the most part, you're looking at specific use-cases.
>>>> 
>>>> As one example, "Print to Moon". (Explaining this requires an off-topic
>>>> essay.)
>>>> 
>>>> Built-in speech recognition would be a second example.
>>>> 
>>>> Self-voicing functionality would be a third example.
>>>> 
>>>> jonathon
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