A public statement may slow the flood of FUD, protecting our end users, while a new release in November will give a clear signal that the project did not choose retirement, ss will all subsequent releases.
-- Jan Høydahl, search solution architect Cominvent AS - www.cominvent.com > 6. sep. 2016 kl. 22.25 skrev Jörg Schmidt <joe...@j-m-schmidt.de>: > > The task of AOO is not the formulation of their own death message, but the > further development of the project, *even* in difficult times. > > There was the proposal to publish a new release in November (during > ApacheCon), that is imho a right step. > > > Jörg > >> -----Original Message----- >> From: Jan Høydahl [mailto:jan....@cominvent.com] >> Sent: Tuesday, September 06, 2016 10:00 PM >> To: dev@openoffice.apache.org >> Subject: Re: [DISCUSS] What Would OpenOffice Retirement >> Involve? (long) >> >> A well written Press Release from the AOO PMC could be a >> timely move now? >> It could be published on the Apache blog as well as sent to >> various editors. >> The PR should be short, to the point and suitable for >> copy/paste into news articles. >> It should paint the broader picture, the state of the >> project, the current push for >> more developers etc. It could also explain ASF's focus on >> healthy communities, >> as an explanation for the [DISCUSS] thread, and the fact that >> an Apache project >> not longer able to produce releases *may* end up being retired. >> >> Could we get writing help from Apache public relations staff? >> >> -- >> Jan Høydahl, search solution architect >> Cominvent AS - www.cominvent.com >> >>> 6. sep. 2016 kl. 20.13 skrev Jim Jagielski <j...@jagunet.com>: >>> >>> Not sure how this will come across... I am certain I will not >>> be fully understood about this, anyway, this question deserves an >>> answer. >>> >>> What has been obvious, from following the numerous threads >> in various >>> places, as well as contributing to the 2 main ones, is just how much >>> "damage" Rob Weir has either done or has been attributed to >> have done. >>> I guess the best way to state it is that he was a very "polarizing" >>> person... >>> >>> Now a lot of the ill-will (and even worse, the hate) >> directed towards >>> AOO is not due to anything we personally did, but is simply >> redirected >>> venom, mostly due to how LO felt abused and used by Oracle and that >>> somehow we were complicit in it (this fallacy, of course, >> was maintained >>> by people who had a not-so-hidden-agenda to create and reinforce the >>> division between AOO and LO). There was really very, very >> little rational >>> cause for TDF/LO hating Apache and AOO so much... or, at >> least, developers >>> on that side being so antagonist towards Apache (I am >> ignoring, for the >>> present, those extreme copyleft proponents who have issue >> w/ permissive >>> licensing for anything). What I'm basically saying is that we did >>> nothing really to deserve the hate... >>> >>> ... except for maybe some of the "over zealous" statements by Rob. >>> >>> What is kinda clear is that there is still a lot of sting there. >>> >>> Now I did somewhat try to "explain" how such >> over-zealousness shouldn't >>> be so surprising, considering what he was fighting against >> (this explanation >>> was in the LWN thread), but rationalization isn't excuse. >>> >>> No, I am not saying we focus on the past... but while we are >>> here for the present and future, we shouldn't "ignore" the past >>> but rather acknowledge it, and then bury it. >>> >>> After all, aren't we asking TDF/LO to do the same?? >>> >>>> On Sep 6, 2016, at 1:57 PM, Marcus <marcus.m...@wtnet.de> wrote: >>>> >>>> Am 09/06/2016 05:22 PM, schrieb Patricia Shanahan: >>>>> +1 >>>>> >>>>> I'm here for the present and the future, not the past. >>>> >>>> I also don't know what a single person - which has left >> the project long ago - has to do with a "what-if-or-if-not" >> thinking game. >>>> >>>> Marcus >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>>> On 9/6/2016 8:15 AM, Rich Bowen wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> On 2016-09-02 09:02 (-0400), Jorg Schmidt <joe...@j-m-schmidt.de> >>>>>> wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>>> never we forget how members of OpenOffice (for example, >> Rob Weir) >>>>>>> were insulted by TDF representatives. >>>>>> >>>>>> It's important, in all of this conversation, to keep the >> interests of >>>>>> the *users* first. This project is about producing >> software for the >>>>>> public good, not about winning some contest, or nursing our hurt >>>>>> feelings. We owe it to the users to forgive and forget actual and >>>>>> perceived insults, and move on with our lives. >> Otherwise, what the >>>>>> heck are we doing here? >>>> >>>> >> --------------------------------------------------------------------- >>>> To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@openoffice.apache.org >>>> For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@openoffice.apache.org >>>> >>> >>> >>> >> --------------------------------------------------------------------- >>> To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@openoffice.apache.org >>> For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@openoffice.apache.org >>> >> >> > > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@openoffice.apache.org > For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@openoffice.apache.org >
