Hi,

let me say a few words on this too:

I have had the autosave option enabled for ages and I've never experienced a problem I'd relate to this. In the contrary, it has helped me a few times to retrieve a document I've had a problem with (such as losing it for some reason or other. I think users will benefit from the autosave being enabled by default.

On the other hand I think there is a number of things in the autoformat section that shouldn't be enabled by default as they might just irritate an inexperienced user who cannot figure out why unwanted changes in the text are made. For the same reason they might annoy experienced users.

Think about it - and a happy New Year!


Max



Am 31.12.2015 um 19:15 schrieb Hagar Delest:
Hi,

I step in this interesting thread, for my 2 cents opinion.

First I've never heard of an "extremely obscure, semi-inconsistently ir-reproducible bug in AOo, EO, and LibO that is triggered when "Always create backup copy" is checked." Even if I spend much less time on the forum for some months, I don't recall problems linked to the automatic backup. Could you provide some evidence about that? NB: I use AOO everyday with the setting activated, never had any problem for years.

Second, one of the reasons for the automatic backup option not being checked by default could be privacy/confidentiality: these files are not secured, meaning that someone could delete a file from his machine without knowing that a copy is available in clear for anyone having access to his profile. Rather a corner case but still to be considered IMHO. Except if we can have a encrypted process (but that's going rather far).

My last point is that IMHO, there is a common denominator in all the problems with the files, from the ### problem (for which I opened a bug report and still record all the occurrences I see in the forum) to the pics lost and blank documents like in this topic. Could we consider the saving process and its robustness? I remember a time when there was absolutely no problem with save operation. Then suddenly, the ### issue appeared. There is perhaps a problem when the new file is saved, okay. But what is not acceptable is that it seems there is a time when all the eggs are in the same basket and if there is a problem, then all is gone. Could we imagine a process where in the final steps there are 3 files: the one in the temporary files and the actual final one in its save location (same new content) and the former version of the file (last manual save). Once the actual new file is written, then allow AOO to remove the temporary file and the former version. My point is: perhaps having a look at the save process could give some hints on possible vulnerabilities to unexpected events (like power loss, ...).

Hagar

Le 30/12/2015 20:33, toki a écrit :
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On 30/12/2015 02:33, Dennis E. Hamilton wrote:

Is there a Bugzilla # on this?
I don't know.

I've forgotten who told me about it, but the consensus was that it was
easier to work around it, by ensuring that both "Save AutoReceovery
Information" and "Always create backup copy" are unchecked, than trying
to recreate the situation in which the bug is usually triggered.

jonathon
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