Hi Basil,

 Nice to catch up again. I want to clarify that here I'm expressing only my
opinion, we do need the PMC to establish if we want - as a community - to
sponsor the English version.

Thanks,

2015-09-04 14:31 GMT+02:00 Basil Cousins <ba...@openforumeurope.org>:

> Hi Roberto,
>
> Great to be in touch.  I will ask Graham Taylor to raise an invoice for
> £100+VAT to cover the English Version.
> Can you let us have the address to be put on the invoice?
>
> Shal we use the same logo as in the London version for Apache Open Office
> or is there a more recent one?
>
> Basil
>
> Basil
>
> On 4 September 2015 at 12:38, Roberto Galoppini <
> roberto.galopp...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>>
>>
>> 2015-09-04 5:06 GMT+02:00 Louis Suárez-Potts <lui...@gmail.com>:
>>
>>> Hi all,
>>> Comments inline.
>>>
>>>
>>> > On 03 Sep 15, at 16:24, Andrea Pescetti <pesce...@apache.org> wrote:
>>> >
>>> > As we discussed some weeks ago, the next ODF Plugfest will be held in
>>> The Hague, Netherlands, mid-September:
>>> > http://plugfest.opendocumentformat.org/2015-thehague/programme/
>>> >
>>> > There are three issues that require attention in a very short time.
>>> Deadline is 8 September when not otherwise specified.
>>> >
>>> > 1) Is anyone going in the end? We discussed this at length. I've never
>>> considered going since it overlaps with another event I'm scheduled to
>>> attend. Dennis and Roberto were both mentioned (and Dennis later clarified
>>> he is busy in the US). Of course if someone goes we can still discuss to
>>> allocate a budget from our events fund.
>>>
>>
>> When I made plans to go I didn't know about much about my calendar of
>> business meetings. As of now I can't commit to that trip, unfortunately.
>>
>>
>>
>>>
>>> The event somewhat overlaps with a personal engagement but that may be
>>> negotiable. It depends on how much subsidy we have to support this very
>>> late trip—of mine, I mean. I’d be coming from Toronto, Canada. A quick
>>> price check via Orbitz reveals that for a flight via the dodgy Air Transat
>>> the cost (R/T) would be about 740 USD. Include an Airbnb room—don’t know
>>> how much that would be but probably not that much, though still, for three
>>> days, at leasts 150 USD, and probably more. (I’m guessing the Hague is
>>> costly.) Besides Air Transat, the average price for airfare to AMS is about
>>> 1300 USD; to the Hague (Rotterdam) 500 USD more or so. I’m guessing a train
>>> trip from AMS is cheaper.
>>>
>>> I’ve been to several of these events, including, I think, the initiating
>>> one. I know ODF fairly well, was on the Oasis TCs, etc. (I quit them a
>>> couple of years ago.) The drawback for me going is I’m not developing ODF
>>> or for ODF and though I can certainly represent AOO’s continued interest in
>>> furthering usage of ODF, not to mention other Apache projects’ ODF work, to
>>> some extent I’ll be mostly competent at relaying speech.
>>>
>>
>> I agree, and I think it would be important to give a speech about our
>> concerns around office formats' interoperability.
>> I believe we can still ask Michiel or Basil to accommodate a similar ask.
>>
>>
>>>
>>>
>>> >
>>> > 2) I was contacted (for no special reason; I've never attended a
>>> Plugfest) by Basil Cousins of Openforum Europe, who gave me permission to
>>> forward his request here, about updating a leaflet for the next ODF
>>> Plugfest. The 2014 version is here:
>>> >
>>> http://openforumeurope.org/wp-content/uploads/2015/06/OFE-COIS-DFD-ODF-Open-Document-Principles-for-Government-Technology-March-2015.pdf
>>> > and there is also an infographic available at
>>> http://www.openforumeurope.org/library/odf-toolkit-2/
>>> > Can you please suggest content updates to this leaflet? Basil in is
>>> CC. We can discuss updates on this list and then one of us, ideally someone
>>> who attends the event, can send the final comments to Basil. The part
>>> needing more attention is the Applications Choices section on page 5.
>>>
>>> I can look at it, too. But others, here, can surely weigh in. I think we
>>> have talent to enhance this, no?
>>>
>>> >
>>> > 3) For this leaflet they also ask for a contribution for printing. One
>>> can support printing the English version (addressed to UK government), the
>>> Dutch version (addressed to Dutch government) or both. The contribution is
>>> 100 GBP (so about 135 EUR or 150 USD) for each edition. If you feel it
>>> would be useful, I assume that the fund for events and merchandising could
>>> be used to support this. Please state if you propose that we allocate
>>> budget and, in case it's a yes, if you'd rather contribute to the English
>>> version or both versions.
>>>
>>> I think it would be money well spent.
>>>
>>
>> Agree for the English version, as far as we can also enrich its content,
>> though.
>>
>> Roberto
>>
>>
>>
>>> Note. This ODF Plugfest brings together some rather important players
>>> form the UK, which is supposedly tending toward it. Independent of any
>>> particular implementation’s concerns or desires, it is, as Roberto G.
>>> pointed out, important that there be *real* solid interest in working with
>>> the government to satisfy their mandate.
>>>
>>>
>>> >
>>> > Regards,
>>> >  Andrea.
>>> >
>>> -best
>>> louis
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