On Wed, 14 Jan 2015 09:27:53 -0800 "Dennis E. Hamilton" <dennis.hamil...@acm.org> wrote:
> Maintaining the independently-developed VCL GUI framework is an > important concern. (Then there's UNO as a cross-platform COM > derivative.) > > The problem with much of the complexity of AOO, it seems to me, > is that it is difficult to find improvements that can be > achieved with progressions of small changes that have every- > think still working each step of the way. Combined with the > level of expertise required to know what changes are safe > and consistent with the architecture of AOO, there is a big > challenge for identifying any major moves. > > It would be great to know what insights there are for > cultivating and sustaining the necessary expertise and > maybe simplifying the learning curve and entrance > requirements. Maybe just keep doing more of what is > already being done in this area? > Changing a GUI framework as discussed here is a major task - fraught with difficulty and hidden "gotchas". It would be better to put the effort going into two areas: bug-fixing - there are many little bugs to be fixed; secondly, improvement in the functionality. Here is not the place to start a debate on what needs to be changed/improved, but we should bear in mind that "bells and whistles" always attract users. If we let competitive products outdistance us, we lose our share of the userbase. > > -- replying below to -- > >From: Kay Schenk [mailto:kay.sch...@gmail.com] > Sent: Tuesday, January 13, 2015 15:46 > To: OOo Apache > Subject: [DISCUSS] Qt as a replacement for VCL > > Something I started thinking about and ta da...it's been proposed before -- > > http://markmail.org/message/gjvwudqnzejlzynz > > In my mind, we could use some assistance in the maintenance of the > toolkit for our UI instead of continuing to do it ourselves. This said, > I know next to nothing about QT and from what I've seen, the licensing > is pretty complicated and might not work for the ASF -- > > http://doc.qt.io/qt-5/licensing.html#licenses-used-in-qt > > <orcmid> > I finally noticed and followed the markmail link above. Of course, > in January 2009, all of OpenOffice.org was under LGPL and the license > was not a concern for the open-source side of things. The private > commercial licensing of OO.o by Sun (e.g., to IBM) would have been a > concern. > The dependency on what continued to be a pretty closely-held project > might have been a concern even then. > If The Document Foundation had decided this was a good idea, the > prospect of an ecumenical accommodation with LibreOffice would be even > stranger today than it already is [;<). > </orcmid> > > Main web site -- http://qt-project.org/ > > Thoughts? > > -- > ------------------------------------------------------------------------- > MzK > > "There's a bit of magic in everything, > and some loss to even things out." > -- Lou Reed > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@openoffice.apache.org > For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@openoffice.apache.org > > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@openoffice.apache.org > For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@openoffice.apache.org > > -- Rory O'Farrell <ofarr...@iol.ie> --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@openoffice.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@openoffice.apache.org
